0000007024 00000 n when your wrapping carbon fibre with a little skinny barrel underneith is fine with normal magnums and nonmagnums, the problem with the 300 ultra is it heats up the barrel too much because the steel is so thin and will actually burn the barrel out in around 200 rounds, now that is just what I read from a few people and I can't remember on which site. I was THRILLED to pick up this rifle and told everyone this was to be my lifetime precision gun. You are making an offer for. This highly accurate, no-nonsense rifle is built around an excellent three-lug action that operates nearly effortlessly. 0000627089 00000 n They dont build rifles like they used to. I suspect they will have the 1:8s soon if they dont already. My dealer tells me Christensen had some problems because they sourced out some things, but now things are done in-house except like the Triggertech triggers. I've had/have both and the XLR is so much better. Am a bit disappointed. Labeled Verified, theyre about genuine experiences.Learn more about other kinds of reviews. This is not a problem with the MPR because it can be made to fit almost anyone. Thanks for the review. I have a Bergara LRP in 6.5 CM, It's been very good to me, I have about 1500 rounds down the tube now. I emailed eurooptic and was told basically that I was smoking the barrel and that it's not designed for any high volume of fire, and that anything more than 5 rounds at a time is abusing it. I bought a 22 LR from Al's sporting goods in Idaho Falls Idaho. Hln!//n"hv#m6R?a h%?sz}\~>pv5_0]n-/t7r[dR&XD,.[uc8ybV{)rrbvpv` v(0cDrn({J)((F>CBx1Yl=&v\zB%rIy+#F*7r7w{C>`]u%5p? Loved the rifle.Broke the handle off the bolt cocking it .Al's sent the gun into Christensen Arms, and told me the turn around time was usually one to three weeks .It has been over six weeks and have no gun yet. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Analytics". HlSK\1Sx$cY, )?$ye);3N: S@968)_17l]rmYrO^":Iy&DxcK3ZX7 UBxsGul4kN^N2tGRtV_0B>IiY4PfHuYxWBD7eA It makes the toughest targets seem like chip shots. like no words Obviously certain guns don't run certain pills well, but at a 100 yards, you cant tell me a different grain is going to fix a 10! @*~13J8cujZ,,;0upX! (wC^,fQS(W=VNkv ] endstream endobj 175 0 obj <>stream Well, that's disappointing. call john mogle . I have never had a bad experience with Bergara CS, ever! Wv[9k.Ji#2AlTJ-w]cs_Z vOjEA6XDNJCn,SS@1^m,7VSWO0&e'M,,m[k\nIDq${G%/kW= b*KBwe`, l *7f?2Kw65l[Nzf! 0000003863 00000 n He didn't really elaborate as to measurements of groups but he seemed less than impressed. Good rifles will print some loads very well. "This is a Christensen Arms 700 338 Lapua 26" Factory Carbon Rifle Barrel For Remington 700. Are my expectations to high? Sent back to them for warranty work. At 100 yards it opens to almost 2 inches. ergonomic platform featuring a palma stainless steel barrel along with a carbon fiber, composite stock. The second question is: Whats the most accurate hunting rifle made? The answer to that is a lot simpler. Off the bench, the Switch is one of the most accurate guns weve shot. Once clear, fire 2 three-shot groups. The Ranger 22 comes with a zero m.o.a. My family has had an FFL for years. Be aware that the weight and mass are still there in this Christensen AR-15 Carbon Fiber Barrel. Send us a message and one of our reps will get back to you. Yikes!!! Don't second guess this rifle it is an amazing shooter you won't be disappointed. I was told that the action was re-Ceracoated and the bottom plate was replaced. This continued for TWO HOURS with different lengths of time to cool the barrel, putting up fresh targets, readjusting my rear bag (at one point I started questioning my sanity and if I even knew how to shoot), and trying every thing I could think of. The large sample data we have all combined with CA carbon barrels is very large. Thanks for any info. Gunnison, UT United States 84634.Terms & Conditions & Privacy Policy. This review is the only one I have seen, and it seems that maybe CA has not gotten their carbon barrel tech quite to where they thought it was. Also no. Likely the barrel wasn't stress relieved prior to carbon fiber wrapping so the residual stresses are still there. I usually shoot around MOA from this location. Its always frustrating when youre having issues with a rifle. :e2vr=xnc>/r\9KRs75I3. Unless my brand new Razor ii has a SERIOUS problem (which we all know is extremely unlikely) then its most likely the gun. I lost count of how many carbon barreled CA rifles I have set up. For minor things Christensen Arms also can authorize qualified dealers to handle issues themselves provided the dealer is willing and there aren't costs associated with it. Even if it's hot as hell it should only open up a bit. Eurooptic is full of crap. Mine shoots damn good with both factory and reloads. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Hotjar sets this cookie to detect the first pageview session of a user. The one not so good issue is the price, compared to other manufacture it is expensive. Thanks for sharing. I was glad to I was able to purchase some 2 years after buying my rifle. Maybe not a big deal but thought it was worth mentioning. 0000010303 00000 n Service is where it is at.Bob Dosser. Well I hope they figure out your problem, I had them put a new barrel on my weatherby 30-378. The communications and quick responses to my questions from Jeff, Kystren and Michelle made the purchase of of my rifle a great experience. I called Krieger and ordered a blank yesterday afternoon after debating whether or not to buy a CF barrel from Proof Research. So unless proven otherwise I'll stick with residual stress as the cause. Bolt Carrier Group: Black Nitride Finish. 0000057372 00000 n The best I own.The products are exactly what they say they are. In the end, I got what I needed, but I wouldnt say it was an enjoyable process.. and they took care of that. He was shooting .75 moa with his 30-06 and hunting loads right beside me on the first outing. Go look through my comments, I DEFENDED CA against these rumors when I first got this gun. How much better can we expect rifles and cartridges to perform? Thats why Christensen Arms builds an exceptionally lightweight, I wish the rifle would have come with an extra shim out of the box though. I want to start off by saying I am no rookie when it comes to long guns. Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. Was called back in a very timely manner and the question was answered by staff, who by the way, had mounted the bipod on the very rifle I had. A radial stainless-steel muzzle brake is threaded on the barrel, which has 5/8 . Google Analytics sets this cookie to store the traffic source or campaign by which the visitor reached the site. They will improve your shot! I wish they used krieger, or hart barrels. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. How are your barrels rifled? Introducing: The Modern Precision Pistol FEATURED COMPONENTS SHOP OUR STORE #CHRISTENSENARMS STAY ARMED WITH UPDATES AND SPECIAL OFFERS I just purchased a CA Mesa in 300WM. Mine, in 6.5 CM, has turned in numerous bug-hole groups, including a .181-inch screamer. Not Yet Rated. Can't get the gun to shoot groups.At 50 yards I get a 1 inch group. Performance cookies are used to understand and analyze the key performance indexes of the website which helps in delivering a better user experience for the visitors. No offense but your CTR groups are far from bugholes or consistent either. H1n0EwBsI1z Ed8CoZ+HKkSIB:W=\>+eGJD jxu[Vkp`bSX Mf2rxOp=sEsa9}wrf]kFx nbwMffHn6 My experience with customer service is first in class. 0000000016 00000 n Prophet river sells only , corlane sports fixes only in this case (I didnt buy from them ) and Christensen arms only builds the gun , they dont sell or fix them !! I proceeded to take it to my local indoor range to zero the rifle and chrono loads before taking it out to my outdoor thousand. Have you ever thought of having someone else shoot both rifles to eliminate the shooters skill-set variable? Great rifles shoot all kinds of ammo well. Nowhere closer to having any resemblance of a zero. The occurrence of POI shift would roughly correspond to the length of time between strings. The bottom metal allows the rifle to utilize AICS magazines. 20 39 My MPR shot unimpressive groups with factory ammo as well, but not quite as bad as those. . Such a large group it wasn't even measurable. when your wrapping carbon fibre with a little skinny barrel underneith is fine with normal magnums and nonmagnums, the problem with the 300 ultra is it heats up the barrel too much because the steel is so thin and will actually burn the barrel out in around 200 rounds, now that is just what I read from a few people and I can't remember on which Capacity. I have been a long time reader but not an official member. Analytical cookies are used to understand how visitors interact with the website. 24 inch heavy carbon fiber wrapped barrel plus a muzzle device. It stores a true/false value, indicating whether it was the first time Hotjar saw this user. BOLT-ACTION. Fist group out was .391 inch. I fell in love with this little rimfire the moment I brought it to my shoulder and dry-fired the 6-ounce trigger. You are using an out of date browser. There barrels actually insulate and trap heat in, (that's what carbon fiber does) dispite what there ads claim. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. You literally gave us NOTHING to go off of. He shot a mule deer and cow elk (370 yds) and our other buddy used it to shoot a pronghorn (310) and a mule deer (570) all with a 130 accubond at 3075 fps. The rifle runs on Brownings smooth three-lug action and is fed by its rotary magazine, which is easy to load and utterly reliable. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. But truly I wouldn't even be able to bring myself to dump this garbage off on someone else. Plus we tested them for stringing when hot at distance and they stayed in group. He is a very experienced shooter/reloader with many miles under his belt. Love the light weight. Action: Semi-Auto, direct-impingement gas system. Lightly textured grip green composite with black and tan webbing. Gun would not come close to a 1 inch group. Proof Research 338 Whisper Carbon Fiber Barrel - 1:9.4. Turnaround time was 3 weeks. This is a rifle that will passed down for generations. The 6 BR has been a mainstay target round for many years, and theres a pack of similar cartridges that have derived from it or are built around similar concepts, including the 6 BRX, 6 BRA, 6mm Norma BR, 6 XC, and 6 Dasher. MIj.kT+-"(.&6xlBeZE;G\_=+!? It has the kind of performance that makes ground squirrels quake in their burrows. Anyone can write a Trustpilot review. I wish I could use a new hunting rifle because I want to by a Bergara premier Stalker or Mnt rifle. So, the answer is a Tikka in a Bravo. I shot the Mesa yesterday at a 100 yard indoor range and printed sub .40 3 shot groups. Like truly thought something was broken. I have way more precision rifles in 6.5, .308, .300, .22-250 than is reasonable. 0000638869 00000 n It may not display this or other websites correctly. Great guys to talk to and they seem to care. Take on the toughest hunts with our most popular hunting rifle. CarbonSix is a good open because I can fine tune my order to my specs while ordering from the others it is buying what they have in stock that suites me the best. Meet the newest and most compact addition to our firearm lineup, ready for backpacking or back-country hunting. When I walked the rep through my barn sized groupings and insane wandering zero, the CA representative was entirely dismissive and LAUGHED saying "well yeah this happens to all guns when they heat up". ~!m"2ie )a+BPE good luck with yours. Christensen Arms 8010116800. Holy shit another one of these. The FFT spotter style stock weighs in starting at 5.5 pounds making it ideal on those long hikes up the mountain. Weve had countless ca rifles. 691328237713. Gun would not come close to a 1 inch group. I think that caused them some problems. This includes gear reviews, features on technical innovations, stories on shooting techniques and general hunting coverage with the occasional fishing story thrown into the mix. If it were an all steel barrel it could be stress relieved by 300 Below or a similar outfit. Inspired by decades of experience with carbon fiber and other advanced aerospace materials, Christensen Arms manufactures highly accurate and lightweight firearms that stand in a class of their own. I have definitely heard some horror stories about Christensen Arms, however the stories I have heard of were more related to chambering issues. Add to Cart. You must log in or register to reply here. You must log in or register to reply here. I had one built with a Christensen barrel and it consistently shoots in the .3s. Hopefully with the introduction of the 7PRC Christensen will begin offering 8 twist 7mm blanks. Tolerance and modern milling means there is no need for a "break in" anymore. He advised it should be able to keep a decent group with 20 rounds. . Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. Any thoughts on a good place to start looking for used glass? Code: 321-00005-00. They fit perfectly. For more information, please see our #r5&vtRN,-}@tN8MQ/lg$vza~E`7J}?7Ul6v97p[4+M2 .c> g`k9ES3pA;Gl`zDmqPe#(I*ea,ZJQf#B I own 2 Christensen Rifles. That's why they only last 200 rounds. You must log in or register to reply here. I can say with absolute certainty the CA barrels are not what they used to be. Well over 200 rounds fired and it just won't dial in. With carbon fiber on the fore-end and barrel, and a skeletonized folding stock, the MPR weighs just over 8 pounds and is quite portable. I sure wish Bergara made something in 6.5 PRC. The thumbhole stock fits like a custom suit. Fast response and helpful. He also did mention he had to back off like 4 grain powder due to bolt opening hard on his Christensen vs his rem 700 in 300 rum with same load. I would buy another. I have bore scoped the barrel and everything checks out ok. Many people may have good experience with CA but it isn't worth the risk of getting one of these lemons. It is not the shooter. The CA rep then proceeded to tell me that using 178s was also the problem and that 200grs would shrink it to sub MOA. 0000012285 00000 n 0000004072 00000 n Does not shoot MOA or anywhere near. The Mesa FFT utilizes an ultralight contour stainless steel barrel with a Cerakote finish, seamless removable radial muzzle brake, and is . That's why Christensen Arms builds an exceptionally lightweight, accurate firearm with cutting-edge, aerospace technology that's not a burden to carry all day - even if you don't get to take a shot. I have definitely heard some horror stories about Christensen Arms, however the stories I have heard of were more related to chambering issues. Wrap a bad barrel and it is still bad. I have one that will not group consistently at all. I am an unabashed fan of the Fix, and the MPR is Fix'ish, while being a little warmer to the touch for cold weather hunting. 0000003828 00000 n Notice how the barrel never gets hot when when shooting one? Like I said before Christensen seems like they produce a high quality product and I would expect nothing less from them, this thread in no way would keep me from purchasing anything from them, other than im a little on the fence on there carbon barrels. I wonder if Christensen would do it. Interesting. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. The cookie is set by Google Analytics and is deleted when the user closes the browser. When I order blanks, I order from Christensen Arms, Red Hawk Rifles, CarbonSix and Bug Holes. Manufacturer: Christensen Model: Ranger 22 . Well-Known Member Joined Aug 10, 2003 Messages 408 Location McKinney TX Dec 25, 2005 #2 Unless Christensen Arms has changed there carbon wrap and there process I would steer way clear. H|Un0+(,J~D(QCL;jdI!.-zP`0a1=T7zF67r QN d^Hf"YlsO'a&I.AD11*Q&0J BZ\y/s9 (u8itlpa My issues with Christensen Arms barrel problems. I was debating on a .338 Lapua (Savage, Christensen Arms, MPA, Sako, and custom build). This cookie is set by Google Analytics and is used to distinguish users and sessions. Christensen Arms Mesa The Mesa was released in 2016, and much like the Ridgeline, it was an overnight success. Most of the time this is expressed in terms of the standard deviation or the extreme spread that we measure with our chronographsand the goal is to make that number as small as possible. The rifle is going back to be checked out. That sounds stand up, hope the problem is fixed and I believe it will be. It is one of the most accurate rifles out of the box weve shot. If you are using a screen reader and are having problems using this website, please call 1-800-227-7776 for assistance. The darn thing shoots lights out now with no stiff bolt. I called Christensen Arms and received a rude reception. You are using an out of date browser. Christensen Arms has a carbon fiber-wrapped barrel version of the MPR that weighs between 6.9 and 8.4 pounds. Just sprayed all types of ammo. The barrel lining is made from match-grade 416R stainless steel . Might be a foolish question but is the barrel torqued on well? reloads are rem brass fed primers 215m retumbo 92.0 gr berger 210 vlds. My experience with Christensen CS has not been impressive. JavaScript is disabled. They seemed like good people over there to deal with I'm sure their not going to screw you over, I understand this is an old thread, but want to reply anyway. All of it was 140gr American Gunner.