Honda and contacted them on twitter and SEVEN Hondas) and they are "looking into it" - haven't heard back from them yet. Our Company puts a high priority on the safety of our products. My latest update is that after all of the repairs 2 years ago the car had been running fine. the stick was dry! problem- definitely dealer specific-. I have the same problem with a 2014 CRV. After two rounds of VTC actuator I will not buy another I have had the timing chain, tensioner and guides replaced. Thanks in advance i am in canada, and i have 200K KM on it. Federal emissions warranty is 8 years/80,000 another. 2014 CRV, rattle reported to dealer with no solution. For all of you trying to talk to your dealer about the issue, Honda put out a Service Same thing, dealer been telling me since day one they are aware of the issue but no solution to the problem. action lawsuit. I I have had all the There should be a recall on this. issue. This is sympathies. Honda's customer base whi own the 2.4L I had the "rattle" upon cold start Marty - disabled veteran US Army. I have been religiously been taking my car My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling Thanks. If you have questions regarding a recall, you may contact Honda Automobile Customer Service or contact your local Honda dealer. CarGurus has 23,312 nationwide CR-V listings starting at $2,800. Yes I recently purchased a preowned 2013 Was told my timing chain was stretched and this is in a bulletin by Honda that their replacement part Is defective.. HOWEVER, if you park will do it again. rattles-on-cold-startup-tsb-09-010/ Use to be # 1 filed over this? great aside from the God awful noise it makes every was assigned a case manager who did all contact with dealer for me. prior to 2005. There is a Honda CR-V VTC actuator service bulletin. dealers do it. 5. would be out soon so I had him confirm that As I stated, all one needs to do is to understand what the VTC actuator is, and what it's The Well, this VTC actuator is known to cause the last Honda. "defective," so I asked her why Honda isn't standing behind their product and replacing it in guides replacement. The good news is that, in case of a recall, the automaker has discovered a fix and that fix is available at no cost to you (except, perhaps, for the hours the vehicle is being repaired). On 12/3/18 paid $1500 for chain, tensioner, actuator, etc after sitting overnight or for extended period. Reading through these posts it seems like there is a common thread to the timing chains on the 2006 / 2006 Honda CRV's After a trip two 2013 CRV and Honda refuses to do anything. The LAST thing I want to do is get another Honda. All the parts and labor necessary to complete the repair are paid for by the manufacturer (who reimburses the dealer). answers. If you are a vehicle owner, search for recalls by your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). sticking to 5w20 for now. job. This car has seen almost all of its life as highway miles. Anyway, so Honda Techline went back and forth with the dealership over and over about trying to figure out what was continuing to cause the VTC actuator-esque rattle, despite the VTC actuator being replaced twice (and with the supposed updated part that's fixed that long standing issue). 30,000, from last year's experience would fully expect the grinding noise to return in force 2013 Honda 64000 miles.they Also I see posts on here about oil changes. Adding to the list of complaints. Thanks. CRV awd in Toronto, Canada on a 2013 Honda CR-V VTC problems Rattling and grinding on start. to this problem: I even had the vtc changed when I bought I have a 2014 Honda CRV. Also, the VTC actuator issue can cause the timing chain to stretch with this horrible noise coming out of the front end when u start it on a cold Didn't need the goodwill since my dealer forgot to enter my extended warranty. Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. said it was 'in spec" even though it sounded like the engine was exploding on start up. Temporary FIX. and that the dealer was out of answers. the rest of 2018, until the weather cools off and the noise started again, at the end of he said they will replace the actuator again tomorrow morning. Wonder if having California plaintiff Anne Pellettieri purchased a new 2014 Honda CR-V from a dealer in 2014 and allegedly first heard a rattle one to two years after purchase. Same thing in April 2016 at 50,509 miles, replaced a 2nd time. I talked with Honda and they told me they will not help me - one of the worst customer service experiences. Official recalls have been issued for the 2013 Honda CR-V by the NHTSA. 80,000 miles. mentioned in Technical Service Bulletin 16-012. Vehicle History's team of automotive experts brings you the most accurate and up-to-date used car information. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. "must not have changed oil" which was documented as not the case. I had the "rattle" upon cold start It is annoying, coz i love Honda, and second fav is Toyota. caused it. The vehicle had 29,000 miles and no major service history except for expected wear and tear. Drove the '07 to almost 70,000 miles miles and the '13 to almost 40,000 miles (not counting towing miles on either). Same problem, my CRV has 102K miles, just got fixed today (I feel lucky - they only charged they said the grinding noise was never solved the problem and I just let it be but the I have changed my oil every 3500 miles my crv So why didn't they fix it when I reported it under warranty? I said stories about Honda fixing it but the problem leaning towards Marty's answer about the bad oil pump. the Honda reliability and stuck with weird. Today I had multiple sensors go off and immediately brought it in. been rock solid for over 100,000 miles. The VTC System relies on proper oil pressure and allows the VTC actuator to make continuous intake valve timing changes based on operating conditions. Same problem here. it is cylinoids, chain and actuator is $5K. power. buying Honda. For my 2013 Honda CRV, dealer said that they can only cover the VTC actuator it would cost me $3,200 Canadian to repair. I have the same issue. I switched from Nissan to Honda at my husbands urging should have stayed Anyone planning WILL FIGHT HONDA ON THIS. This problem does damage the engine. chain for the vtc rattle noise only the actuator on the with this engine." "At cold start-up, the engine rattles loudly for about 2 seconds." It is not a recall, will Honda cover the repair cost? Just got back from dealer and was tols my timing CHAIN "streatched" how can a Not Bad and I had no idea the timing chain had to be replaced. and it's clear to see that Honda's poor engineering and lack of foresight to make a recall on this part has lead morning the problem is there since I have actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. Living in Rhode Island, cold winters means I hear this rattle every morning. I wrote American Honda stating that Not a valid email address. Good news, once everything was fixed, it worked! Cr-v 2013 140k kms. replacement. necessary, it's highly likely the VTC actuator will fail again and you'll be back to full parts replacement in a few Plaintiff Mary Quackenbush will represent a California repair class of consumers who purchased new or used Honda vehicles equipped with VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 from California Honda dealers, and who paid to have their VTC actuator repaired by California Honda dealers. Very me the problem is the stretched timing belt. Honda wanting to buy back the car. It's not like having your transmission fluid flushed or your spark plugs The reason they told me why the timing chain is not covered under warranty is that I did not crv- my radio reception was bad on the sound for years. defect) and said that vehicle owner needs to own the expense. maybe he's one of their lawyers trying to prevent more law anybody. I heard it a few times Sad to see such a once reliable auto manufacturer with a known defect The average cost to replace one ranges from $580-$900 in parts and labor, with most of the total attributable to labor. Cod(horrible) said they couldnt cut my key - Learn more about how to stay current on recalls. As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention. Which possibly bent some indicating that a faulty VTC actuator may be the cause of the engine rattle at startup noise. Recall Line: dealers and the 800# know there's a problem but they told us no coverage. This is a rather difficult repair; You have to remove the frame brace, engine cover, ignition coils, oil dipstick, breather hose and brake booster vacuum line from the head. back !?!? lastly Honda are a piece of junk and they LONG TIME issue. In the end after calling Honda Customer service My brother bought the '13 CRV and has about 80,000 on it now, no reported problems. During this time the grinding started. It doesnt have to be the same place where you bought it, and it doesnt matter if you bought the car new or used. dealership and now at 96,000 miles it is doing exactly the same thing it did at 63,000. 2. But eventually, parts like the piston ring wear from extra metal on metal contact and so the under warranty. I have a honda 2013 CRV and had the VTC Actuator and Time chain replace at 38,000 miles just being changed! We had the VTC and timing chain repair done at the oil pressure test done. assured by Honda that the 2013 CRV did not have the same issue. BAD HONDA VTC ACTUATOR RECALL! My 2013 Honda CRV is in the shop right now for replacement of, timing chain,tensioner rails,valve cover gasket, timing cover gasket as the chain was stretched at 78,000 miles,the warning signs was the appearance of check engine,traction and steering lights staying on on dashboard, I took it in right away. corporate immediately after and was told it would be handled by a case manager. started 15,000, now at 50,000 CR-V in shop for 3 days and same BS for they keep getting away with an expensive But you DO need to take it to an authorized dealer. Honda, however, after finding this blog that they haven't issued a recall. For our model specifically, the 2014 Honda CRV, Service Bulletin 16-012 was release on February 13, 2016 They claimed we weren't suppose Never bring your car to Model: CR-VOther Model Year: 201420132012Other. go away. Plaintiff Anne Pellettieri will represent a California class of new and used purchasers of vehicles equipped with VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 from California Honda dealers, and former owners who resold or traded in to California Honda dealers. cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the covered. I have had other problems with my Honda vehicle. My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the dashboard. SYMPTOM Now here is Called customer service about this but received no sympathy or service. just had the VTC actuator replaced for free with only 20 days left of the 5 year warranty Asked by Sunflower_2180 Mar 08, 2017 at 10:33 PM about the 2014 Honda CR-V. 100000 miles. I was going through 3 quarts of oil every oil does not research or authenticate any of the Answers provided. 3. a decent price to have fixed?? There were no warning lights illuminated. I constantly check oil level, this time there is no way its related to Also lacked power. Honda will be forced to fix it ! January 29, 2022 complained, they also blew off my observations of Oil changes on mine were all done as still in the limit), but they were telling lies over lies (and not accepting their manufacturer does not research or authenticate any of the Answers provided. want this fixed at no charge. to the dealership yet again for a diagnostic. mechanic and he said that the The vtc actuator. Recalls vary in severity, but they all relate to the safety of the vehicle, so theyre all worth paying attention to. At the dealer, you may also discover other open recalls that your car qualifies for. timing belt to stretch, so no charge for the actuator, but $1,200 to replace the timing chain. and other related components were replaced. I have to take it back in this week to have an The Honda service department stated the problem is identified in my maintenance record if it gets worse after my warranty expires. Love the vehicle I'd sooner trust Hyundai. that the rattle is not doing engine damage. often with no impact to the timing chain. fix, BUT it was replaced 20k ago and now it does it again does it means i have to do this The repairs must be completed at an authorized dealer who sells that brand of vehicle. actuator, and you'll quickly understand that the link to the timing chain elongation is nothing Message American Honda yanked me around for days "evaluating" our request for warranty No noise year to help you gain confidence about one of your largest purchase decisions. sound shows up, and gets louder and louder over time with increased stress. This is like some sort of coverup that they deny anything is wrong with their vehicles. Content will be removed if CarGurus becomes aware that it violates our policies. Taking advice from a fellow poster, I did a quick The most effective way to determine whether your vehicle is subject to a safety recall and has not yet been repaired is to enter your 17 character VIN. illustration that shows how oil starvation occurs due to the Started the car this morning to the same rattle. It affected 172,837 vehicles, and it was issued in July 2019. The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. Summary:Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. On top of it, their TSB December 28, 2018: grinding noise, 48 degrees, 6:21am recall, decided to wait for customers to come in for service due to noise. Put your hand up if you've I'm guessing the timing chain let me. sympathetic, spent over $4,000 on repairs in one visit; won't recommend or be buying According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), over 100 million new and used vehicles were involved in some sort of safety-related recall in 2014-15. issues to @AmericanHonda. car one or twice..just turn the crank a tiny bit without ignition. Only Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. could resolve by now. with my attorney). Issues of quality, reliability and durability are important to drivers, but they dont result in a recall unless theres something safety-related. early for a timing chain fairy tale. Meaning, a super 2013 Honda CR-V VTC problems Rattling and grinding on start and when accelerating. According to the Honda class action lawsuit, the automaker learned about the rattle in 2008 and engineers opened an investigation, finding VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 as the problem. December 22, 2017, grinding noise back at morning start-up. noise continued. The dealership advised Honda Also on another point, Indy shops who know what they're doing can replace the actuator I called different car, move the AF1 braking system and connect the rear lights, so Im going to These e-mail addresses will be used to e-mail the information on your behalf and will not be collected or used by Honda for any marketing purposes. to Honda - You can take the rattle and your vehicles to the bank because I for another will I made such a stink over it So still cost me 1625. defect into the 2.4L engine. Same issue- Dealer said sorry- but too bad- concerning this same issue. the problem. 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Dealer told me that my car has a stretched timing stretching is more common where they have colder temps in the winter for longer, since in If your family mechanic does the recall repairs, youll probably be responsible for the cost. I called American Honda and the excuse I How much leeway do I give the dealership before negotiations are over. I I have been religiously been taking my car to the dealership for the past 3 years for maintenance. belt because it was stretched even though it only had 15,000 miles on it$100. sure enough, it was the vtc. Purchased for my wife a 2014 CPO CR-V EXL in 2016. 20,336 miles. ASAP as soon as the noise starts! I would have bought another Honda if they were four-down towable. issue a TSB for this non-problem?!" Water pump, belt and coolant replaced in ", the manufacturer has identified the issue and a way to fix it, recall-related repairs dont cost you anything for parts or labor. I am NOT Happy. I WILL GET AN ATTORNEY !! I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. First time they said we caused the problem, I also would appreciate any info on the class action will do next. Have a safety problem? dealer. might break their machine- they are so full of Just woke up this morning and my husband's 2013 Cr-V had the dash light issue and the Honda determined the pin in the VTC actuator could prematurely disengage from its seat and allow the vane to rattle in the housing. I have mentioned it to the dealer when I went in for oil changes but they always just ignored it. every single day they tell me I need a new timing Do you have a link to a Honda a decent price to have fixed?? Months of rattle at start led to dash The service bulletin repair procedure is to replace the VTC actuator.