@mtpo - Your floors look BEAUTIFUL, thank you for sharing the pics, I can't wait to see the final product. But that's just a quick guess. @tkgriff which did you go with and do you like? However, I failed to visualize the tan natural against the grey bathroom tile. The solid white D e k t o n didnt clean up as well as Neolithic or Corian. When I put the natural stain on my floor it looks gray. He can 'cut in' the edges of the floor with a brush, bite a sandwich, chew, take a drink, go toilette, come back and work the job with a T-barand STILL have time to go over several sections if it looks 'dry'. According to WFB's 2020 State of the Industry Contractor Survey Report, in 2019 red oak made up 48% of installed species and white oak made up 32% (We dont know for sure what our on site finish will be either but felt we had a little more control this way.). It has come out very well. When I get to see them, Ill post pics. There are a couple places where either a dogs nail or something created a tiny gouge all the way through to the wood - so the Bona is not impermeable. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances? But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? My tub with quartz top. If, youre looking for a small amount. Looks like it was a screen shot with the flooring compan of Seattle Hardwood out of Mukilteo. You have NOT hired installer yet! You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. That seems light to me, but he said it was sufficient (that word doesnt make me feel convinced). 1 coat seal and 2 coats finish. When was the last coat applied? In your photos, it actually looks like your parquet is made solid squares, nicer to see larger woodgrain patterns instead of the 4 or 5 slat in a checkerboard pattern(each "tile" would have 12 or 14 etc total slats in one 1 sf "tile". Brazilian Floors did the installation and finishing. I don't want shine either - so do I do the sealer of Natural and then do an extra matte finish? It is my impression that this as raw wood had less variation in color from one board to another and less pronounced grain and was a bit lighter than the American white oak or the other European white oak I saw. I am trying to figure out the same for my rift oak cabinets. Many customers like a dark stain because it looks modern and the floor is easy to decorate. My kitchen is the opposite of yours with white cabinets and gray countertops and I like the way my natural white oak floors warm it up. did you have a contract or at least an email stating you wanted white oak? In real life, they dont have as much brown as in the photo. Ryan - where did you purchase your Milesi? Ours is from Norway. Doing a light stain like this is not easyand it takes time. They do their own fuming there I found it interesting to learn about that too. WebBona Traffic HD Anti Slip Satin Water-Based Wood Floor Finish - 1 Gallon BKWBTRAFFICHDANTISLIPSATING01 $153.58 Unit Size: 1 Availability: In Stock Add To List Add To Cart Bona Domo Satin-Matte Water-Based Wood Floor Finish - 1 Gallon BKWBDOMOSATIN-MATTEG01 $64.99 Unit Size: 1 Availability: In Stock Add To List Any suggestions on deciding one over the other? The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. Which means something is sitting on, grinding down, pressing into or just plain 'sitting on' your floors every second of every day. There are some lap lines on the floors from the sealer. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. Buyer beware, you should be nervous. I can reject non-essential cookies by clicking Manage Preferences. Thank you so much! WebBona DriFast Stain is a premium quick-drying stain for interior hardwood floors. By the way, did you use any fillers to fill the knots and gaps between the planks? Apply and wipe off excess. BTW -/ we learned that the color of the wood is different and takes the sealer or stain differently depending on where it is from. I have seen plenty of samples of his work. It doesn't make sense. Thanks for taking the time to write all that! I know one of the Milesi products in the natural effects side does contain a UV filter. We ended up using one coat of Bona natural sealer and two coats of HD matte on the floors. @Ashley Your floors look beautiful. They didnt have classic to sample, but the sand/finish guy said it would be closer to the Natural than IntenSeal. The cost of the floors and Bona sealer plus 3 protective coats was almost twice the price that my parents paid for the house I grew up in so be prepared to gasp and clutch your wallet. If you search my other discussions on this site, youll see how I flip-flopped so many times Corian, stainless, Neolith, D e k t o n, Quartz, wood (for the island top) and finally back to Corian. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. Apply the second coat. Do you know if Duraseal is found in home stores? If you have 3000sf then the $2500 upgrade is nothing. Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? Some 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. We went with the Bona Nordic and Traffic HD. Also is he recommending abrading between the coats? I personally see dolomite and dense sandstones misrepresented as Quartzite more then any other material. The samples are done AFTER you hire the professional but BEFORE you put down the stain! I am nervous about this and I'm wondering if anyone had trouble with white streaks on their floor? If, you want a raw pale look. (Mirror and lighting still not in). Being able to apply multiple coats in a day, depends on the square footage of the project. How should I adjust these home plans to save $ or improve the layout? I think of a coat of sealant as 1/2 a coat of finish. I asked for, but he never did, an all country white one. Obviously flooring isnt my specialty, but it is yours. @mtpo We are also considering the Bona nordic seal on white oak. How should I adjust these home plans to save $ or improve the layout. 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Bona is designed to be 'hot coated' that is to say it does BEST when coat 1 and coat 2 (like sealant and then 1st coat of finish) come in quick succession (less than 24 hours but nothing less than the 'minimum time between coats'). We got select I think its 3/4 thick and 7 wide. Heres how to keep them that way, Let the sunshine in. Are light white oak wire brushed floors hard to keep clean? Or Bona Traffic + their stain line. Thanks again! I would bet it would come in at the same price as a "buff and coat" (national average = $3/sf). Held off on final coat until project finished.. which will be done in a few days. This is Bona Natural Seal and Bona Nordic Seal on sanded white oak. Yes. We got to see snippets of the finished floor today, and we love what we see. The 'raw' look is a special look. I have it in my home. Did you use one or two coats of the Nordic seal? It still should not come off. What color are your cabinets and what color Corian did you go with? The builder had choices for us, this or that type of choice. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. Dark floors are pretty popular with clients but as you mention usually going with white or painted cabinets. He had 15 years of experience doing only floors and was highly recommended to me. When I see Nordic in photos it looks beautiful, but I dont think I want a white wash. First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. It is less than $0.85/sf. new and it will be white oak common # 1. Please dont post again while I figure out how to delete this post. and any photos would be most appreciated I like the bona nordic white look in the 2nd photo (thats covering about 20 wood squares) is that the semi-gloss Loba, (or perhaps raw, freshly sanded parquet - that is the look i'm going for my wood finger parquet, lightened / whitewashed with the red/yellow/ambering removed and the seal to be almost matte. I love your wall and cabinet paint too. Our cabinet maker hasn't been able to match what we are hoping for. Was afraid it would look a bit cartoonish or out of place. I did a lot of research and planned to try Bona NaturalSeal, Bona ClassicSeal and Bona NordicSeal on this round of samples. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. What was really helpful to us is that the installer did lots of different samples for us and every new layer of the top coat changed how the wood looked. I did call Bona and they assured me that none of the 3 sealers would add "yellow" or "amber" to my floors - but thought I'd also ask here. Natural came in too natural or raw (though thats what I thought I wanted). white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances. We are looking for the same - any update on what you ended up using? You will save a little compared to Traffic HD, perhaps $0.25 psf. Choosing finish on white oak floor. I would rather find a cabinet line that carries white oak in this stain than go with a cabinet maker. Compare that to the 2 MINUTES you have with Bona! It will 'deepen' the colour you see (ie. Mega is the 'cheap' level of the Bona line-up. That leave NaturalSeal, ClassicSeal and IntenSeal. After reading on the website about this particular water-based finish, I learned that while it might dry clear, it leaves an amber color tone--just what I did not want. @tkgriff Love the floor. Some comments that NaturalSeal has a slight white cloudiness? Please contact us if we can be of further help. If you read the question carefully, you would understand I answered that the last coat of finish was applied Saturday. After seeing this post and refinishing parents floor, I want your oak in my house you did fantastic job. More great information. It is not the homeowner's fault that the job was bid too low (but they did accept the bid)but it is now the homeowner's experience (part of the decision process of taking the low bid) to live through a full sand and refinish of a brand new floor. @Renee Czeryba, Natural SEALER and Traffic HD. I read ClassicSeal is a cheaper sealer in the Bona lineup? First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. I will report back once I have the application on a sample board. I have read so many wood floor horror stories. 3 coats in one day. WebInformacin detallada del sitio web y la empresa: qhhsubiquity.com, +13012001475, +13012001768, +13012001300 The Ubiquity The student news site of Quartz Hill High School Quartzite gets a bad name due to companies mislabeling marbles, dolomites and sandstone. How are you liking it so far? Is the Nordic still a problem? are you happy with it 2+ years later (and is it holding up well with food/oil stains etc) please share any details, like if you had 2 or 3 coats. I love your base molding, where do you buy that from? We did one coat of Bona natural seal and two coats of Bona HD extra matte on white oak. Thanks so very much Shannon. Use Bona Naturaseal for the look you want. Use two coats of natural seal and two coats of naturale. I went to the Neolith east coast showroom and actually picked something out I loved but my builders fabricator talked me out of it. This was such a great informative thread. Contact your Bona rep to understand all the options with the Bona System or view our catalog here: https://bit.ly/3eqqhSK. Had my red oak floors done in weathered oak and they are still simply too pink. Blue tape is where some contractors messed things up. P.P.S. He can work a section. They were great to work with. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. There are some lap lines on the floors from the sealer. For my white oak floors - thinking of using Bona Natural Sealer or Classic or Intense. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. I thought I was going with Pallman's white, because it was gorgeous on the 15"X8" sample but on the larger sample with a new bundle of wood it pulled way too pink, even on white oak. Bona Intense Seal Bona Classic Seal Bona Neutral Seal DuraSeal Weathered Oak Stain DuraSeal Silvered Gray Stain Bona Drifast Stain The Finish We Chose You may not be aware of the fact that white oak floors do not need to be stained. This is a platform for people to help one another. These were my red oak in a medium stain and you can definitely see the red undertone: My SIL did a darker stain on her floors and she says the cleaning is brutal. (The Classic has less of a haze.) I forgot to take a photo of the hand made air vent the installers made for the floor vent. 1,303 views Oct 22, 2020 We originally sanded this floor almost 20 years ago, this time the customer wanted a much lighter color. Thx for sharing. Its small enough, you should be able to manage it. @Moran Blueshtein. ), Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). will slightly darken the floors and sort of intensify the variation (the sample boards almost looked wet to me). WebBona NaturalSeal is a waterborne sanding sealer designed to retain the appearance of unfinished wood on your floor. I got a quartz remnant for the tub area (a kinda white) in my hideaway bathroom and Ocean Jasper Quartz for the master ADA bathroom. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. Also did the installer abrade between the seal & finish coats? carlyhow many coats of HD did they apply? Getting gloomy from cool gray? The coating should not come up. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. Looking at your photos, I love the look of your kitchen. G&S generally makes great comments and has solid analysis but in this case he assumed something not in evidence and commented based on that. The builder already ordered the wood. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. All the questions and answers have been helpful to me when I have come looking, so I wanted to post photos from today that will possibly help others choose. We planned to wait 6 days to move in and will use felts and place furniture down gently. And, to be fair to the above poster. Just found out distributors only sale in gallon sizeso its not going to be an option for metoo expensive to pay for gallons in seal and finish just to test it. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. Carly, please provide source for your floors, exactly what Im looking for. Directly before me was one of the mirrors I have mentioned, in which I saw reflected the tall shape of my friend, Mr. Jennings, leaning over my shoulder, and reading the page at which I was He installed the floors beautifully, but installed red oak even though I showed him a sample of pre-finished white stained white oak. As for the cost of install$5/sf with FULL SPREAD glue + stain + sanding + finish (materials extra) is on the low side. I realize your flooring was "select" not #2 and that makes a difference. Are You Gutsy Enough to Paint Your Floor White? View a wide selection of Rugs and other great items on KSL Classifieds. If he can't get it donethen hire someone NEW and send the bill to the original contractor. Can you also please send a picture of the floors with the seal and traffic HD? WebWe ended up using one coat of Bona natural sealer and two coats of HD matte on the floors. No way to maintain and they ALL show scratches very easily and I should know- I get called a lot because of it Help! Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. If you look for darker colors, you will see fewer color shades in the wood planks. Get the third coat of sealer. The company that supplied the raw wood and the installer both recommend Bona products. WebWe just installed 5 white oak throughout our home. I'm so confusedthere is no flooring in the white oak, just the LVP. We were going after the Studio McGee house look attached. From all Ive read, it seems Bona Traffic HD is the way to go on the finish coats. I have a small house and should have maximized flow but didn't realize just how much planning that would take at once. D Debra Travis Red Oak Hardwood Floors Installing Hardwood Floors Natural Wood Flooring Decoration We refinishing the floor and apply natural seal from bona and top coat bona mega one satin D It was one coat of seal. You only need an inch. A gallon of Varathane = $80 (Home Depot). Our contractor informed me that it is significantly more expensive, $2500 more expensive. @Elaine Gauthier Art Did you find any solution or larger cabinet maker that has the white oak? I have read through almost every post here looking to see how to get the most natural finish without yellowing. And rubio makes a treatment for acid stains. Thank you, I don't know the specific name of it. Just wondering if 2 coats of the Traffic HD is enough or should I add a 3rd coat of the finish even in rooms that arent used as heavily? I am posting some final outcome pictures in different rooms and lighting. WebAn icon used to represent a menu that can be toggled by interacting with this icon. @mtpo sorry to bring this thread back. WebHealthsmart: 640-8174-1900HS, Healthsmart - 640-8174-1900HS - HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24", White, HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24" L, White, Epoxy-coated Steel Let's see how long this finish last. WebSome 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. We see it FAR to often (as in DAILY) on this forum. Gravity works. In fact, Im pretty sure the samples were just wound into the builders quote to us for the floors. I screwed that up a few times. Looking for something similar to yours, thank you! Not change the raw color much, 2. Our hardwood installer and contractor use DuraSeal products often and Bona Mega. For a house your size and a $50k budget. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. Red oak floors look horrible, help with light stain colors needed! I am hoping this Sherwin Williams product won't yellow over time. Unless you're certain the gaps developed AFTER installation, I'd suggest the possibility they may have been present all along. Bona Natural Seal on the top, Bona Nordic Seal on the bottom. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. P.S. You only need an inch. And it does NOT cause amberingbut the Mega does. Cochrans offers this wood in different thicknesses and grades which also impacts the price. I originally wanted Corian in the kitchen with a stainless area (Near the cooktop) because they withstand abuse, can be refinished and are hygenic. Also, Durasupreme got less than good reviews online. It won't be cheap but it will be fast. 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Thank you! We are wrapping up our new build and the floor stain choice was today. That means you relate clean with shiny. Part of me wishes we went satin finish bc I realized I do like a little sheen on a floor (just washed look). NaturalSeal adds the LEAST amount of 'colour' (either white or yellowdoesn't matter) of all the sealants in the Bona line up. Attached is a photo of the hardwood unfinished without stain. Do you think there is any major issue with this? This photo Nordic is on the top and Natural is on the bottom. I personally feel a reputable stone supplier and fabricator will educate you in mineral composition, stone formation, and inform you how and where the stones are quarried. Our hardwood installer actually did one coat sealant last Friday, then a coat of finish later in the day, then Saturday did another coat of finish. It didnt seem to show the variations in the wood, light to dark, etc, grain, etc. I'd say I send back at least 20 bundles a year that are not true Quartzites even though they are passed off to me as such. Installing an 8" plank with full spread glue is EXPENSIVE (the labour alone is intense). No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. The picture I attached is with one coat of Bona Mega using no stain. Milesi or Renner, etc etc. San and finish guys come in next. It is a work of art. Some people complain that is hard to live with finish, because for example foot marks while walking barefoot.