We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ was raised bodily and that He ascended to Heaven and is now exalted at the right hand of God, where, as our High Priest, He fulfills the ministry of Representative, Intercessor, and Advocate (Acts 1:9-10; Hebrews 9:24, 7:25; Romans 8:34; I John 2:1-2). A Baptist church may choose to associate with other churches of like faith You can read some of them in the comments section and in the testimonial section here: https://baptistdeception.com/testimonials/. Im convinced that its much much deeper than rejecting real truth .. many many come back in southern Baptist churches, but not ifb churches.. what say u. You can be a better Christian IF you repent of your sins and turn away from them and if you can grow spiritually. Scripture is Good! But what He hates about us is the pride and arrogance in us. For you are so careful to clean the outside of the cup and the dish, but inside you are filthyfull of greed and self-indulgence! The Bible is inspired and preserved by God and carries His absolute authority. Church membership is a necessary privilege for believers who follow Christ. Then you have churches with no standards . Hypocrites! 34. I dont think it applies to all IFB churches, the ones I grew up in didnt do some of these, but the rest definitely apply. 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WebAn independent, fundamental Baptist, local church oriented faith Mission serving Baptist and Bible churches in their missions outreaches and church planting around the world. Lastly, I cant really respond to the think that theres something spiritual about tolerating abuse because I have no idea where thats coming from in my initial post. 25. Do you realize this was written as humorous piece ? This is very good. He says he isnt saved but is open minded and is at least asking questions. The explosion caused property damage but no injuries or deaths. You should do something else with the time God has aloud you.Nonsense is not what people need to hear. God is the only one who can forgive mans sins. Matthew 6:14-15 There I am separate does that mean Im never going to curse, or think negative thoughts. If your pastor is telling you otherwise hes a heretic. Also, Im not mocking Biblical beliefs. Yes, because he wants to spend a little time with his child. When I read what you have written, I sense that you are bitter, hurt, angry, and possibly disillusioned. While I am not against crucifixes but using them in public worship is idolatry because the bible forbids idols. He granted his permission to work in the Infant Ministry and Toddler, and 3-4 year old Ministry. It seems most on here have a issue with IFB churches. Gods will was for me to forgive. If you consider it worldly and almost frightening if someone brings a different version of the Bible to church, and wonder what your Pastor would say if he knew, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. Great job adding a bit of levity! If you think that homosexuality is an unforgivable sin, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 55. 49. Please get away from the IFB as far as you can, as fast as you can. Ask questions if you need to and Ill be happy to explain more. Romans 5:8 I was married when I attended before and now as a divorced woman, I know I probably would be looked down upon. We believe that men are justified by faith alone and are accounted righteous before God only through the merit of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. The two are completely unrelated. You ALWAYS have your KJV Bible with you at church, and turn to numerous verses each sermon. I remember a particular lesson in church about the rod and staff. Amen! Correction is my discernment. If the devil is going to attack, he will attack the family and the church first. Please trust me when I tell you that your IFB church (as most other IFB churches) is preying on you. Which is more importantthe gold or the Temple that makes the gold sacred? Me and my husband got saved 3 1/2 years ago at an IFB church. No, but I wanted to send the rest of my life with him. Just because we forgive people doesnt mean we are obligated to marry them or anything else. Many churches are about the money, as is some of their pastors. Independent Baptists (a.k.a. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things. Many of these, yes are extreme, be we also need to not be compromising in some areas. 40. THESE SERMON OUTLINES By Michael D. ONeal, Founder and Pastor Since 1986 Of. Whether u believe its talking about judah/Ephraim or not. Hmmmmm interesting.I will bash ifb, while I mix truth and error interesting.. Nice going Steve Back then, you had to wear your Sunday best. 54. We believe that the strict, literal interpretation of the Bible makes us Baptists. Most pastors skip virtue, usually because they just dont know any better. What a stupid thing to say. We believe that speaking in tongues was never the common or necessary sign of the baptism or filling of the Holy Spirit and that ultimate deliverance of the body from sickness or death awaits the consummation of our salvation in the resurrection, though God frequently chooses to answer the prayer of believers for physical healing. No, thats silly! 3. All Catholics will not go to heaven is absolutely wrong. Because of your traditions you have destroyed the authority of Gods word. We believe in one Triune God, eternally existing in three personsFather, Son, and Holy Spirit, co-eternal in being, co-identical in nature, co-equal in power and glory, and having the same attributes and perfections (Deuteronomy 6:4; II Corinthians 13:14). According to the ADL "Anti-LGBTQ bigotry and antisemitism are fundamental to New IFB ideology, as demonstrated by the doctrinal statements on their websites and the content of their sermons. If you think that homosexuality is an unforgivable sin Thats not true. 33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband. If you believe that clapping after special music is wrong because it gives praise to the performer rather than to God, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 16. XII. They will not participate, as a church, in any outside function with churches which do not also strictly base their faith and practice on the New Testament. I was taught that. So, are you happy about that, or wanting to change? The Baptist distinctives are listed below: The Bible is our sole authority for faith and practice. Jesus tells us in Matthew 7:1-5: Judge not, that ye be not judged. They are shared in my article about tithing: https://baptistdeception.com/tithing/. at people who raise their hands during worship music you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 34. WebIndependent Fundamental Churches of America, fellowship of conservative, independent Christian churches stressing biblical truth. 4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Wow! I found this site while checking for deceptions in different denominations, starting with Mormons. Its the inspired word of God. Every time I got to a low point in my life, I knew that I could count on the church to be there for me. You had to wear a tie if you wanted to preach or preside over the Lords Supper. Then they paid for your reception, photographers and shower? I go to an IFB church and thought a few of your statements could be funny if in the right spirit, some not so much and others I found untrue altogether. The IFB are Pharisees of our day. I have no opinion on this [4][5], A split in the New IFB occurred in January 2019, after Donnie Romero, pastor at Stedfast Baptist Church-Fort Worth (SBC), resigned after it was revealed he had hired prostitutes, smoked marijuana and gambled. Im pretty sure it WAS/IS alcohol because the bible talks alot about not getting drunk with wine.also take a little wine, etc. I have 3 children I sometimes spank I sometimes lecture. (Matthew 28:19-20; Romans 6:4; 1 Corinthians 11:23-32), Every individual, believer and unbeliever, possesses the God-given privilege of free will having the liberty to choose what to believe. If that is the case, you might as well go out and live like hell, because you are not interested in what God says anyway. First wash the inside of the cup and the dish,[i] and then the outside will become clean, too. Im mocking IFB beliefs many of which arent scriptural. Satan's eternal end is everlasting torment in the Lake of Fire (Revelation 20:10). Only God decides who goes to heaven and who doesnt. If you think that you can be a better Christian or have more favor with God with good performance, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 54. Yes but this is my concern about the IFB beliefs and I understand this was written to make it funny. We even have TWO. Whats wrong with a tract rack? We wanted help and we wanted to know what the Bible said. Im open to discussions what Im not open to is people telling me what God wants me to do with my time and resources. Some of these are humorous and right on the money. What sorrow awaits you! 2. My jabs are defensive in nature. IFB people as a whole, are generally willfully ignorant people. 9 And dont address anyone here on earth as Father, for only God in heaven is your Father. If they are saved , I dare say they regret the day they walked into the very church you enjoy making fun of. Besides I dont understand why you shouldnt listen to Contemporary Christian music. 4 How can you think of saying to your friend, Let me help you get rid of that speck in your eye, when you cant see past the log in your own eye? For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Im truly sorry for those who were mistreated and sorry if bitterness is hurting you now. The verses you quoted are taken out of context and dont mean what you imply them to mean. WebWOL's Directory of Independent Baptist Churches; Independent Baptist Churches. That is the only sin that cannot be forgiven. Its never spoken but up there to read. I want to respond to your #30. 19. But if people come here to attack me and my views I will defend myself. 24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. The Lord's Supper, or Communion, commemorates Christ's broken body and shed blood giving each believer an opportunity for self-examination and rededication. Smoking, drinking, partying, dancing, listening to secular music or Contemporary music arent sinful though partying can only be sinful if you are drunk. Jonathan I have a question for you..IF the wine is grape juice (as in the water Jesus turned to wine)HOW can you get drunk on it???? Its not an Old Testament Law vs New Testament issue. I rarely post on random pages I stumbled upon but by his reaction, he didnt think Dave intended to be offensive to prove a point. WebWARNING!!!! There are those who are called to rebuke abusive religious practices. If a child is behaving like a child (i.e., appropriate for his/her age), but you think they are being misbehaving and rebellious, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 40. All youve done in your last paragraph is parrot typical IFB talking points no substance there, just regurgitation. The other thing is: Nowhere in the bible are we commanded to attend a regular CHURCH building and dress nice. If your church encouraged you to make your own decision about becoming baptized, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. Well Pastor Wilkerson is no longer here, and welllll.as far as Im concerned will never be the same. 2 Corinthians 2:10 is a guideline not a command. 15. Read Matthew 23 for more information. You can forgive him, that doesnt mean you have to marry him. I dont believe they bought our loyalty, because we werent of any good investment. Gods people are the Jews.. from Jew-dajudah. We struggled putting off our addictions, but over came them trough prayer. The Trinity: Southern Baptists believe in only one God who reveals himself as God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. 39. Jesus forgave me and Im going to choose to forgive others regardless if they want it. We believe that all the saved should live in such a manner as not to bring reproach upon their Savior and Lord; and, that separation from all religius apostasy, all worldly and sinful pleasures, practices and associations is commanded of God (II Timothy 3:1-5; Romans 12:1, 2, 14:13; I John 2:15-17; II John 9-11; II Corinthians 6:14-7:1). They are counting on your service and tithe. I am pretty conservative, but find some of this stuff outright ridiculous! The New Independent Fundamental Baptist network, most prominently associated with anti-LGBTQ pastor Steven Anderson, appears to be in turmoil as infighting again erupts, this time between Anderson and fellow pastors in the network. If you compromise too much with the world, satan gets in and anything can happen thats why the word says to stay vigilant. I did read it but I still dont understand their beliefs on it.. You obviously didnt read the entire list see number 47. Our accountability comes through a board of directors comprised of 24 independent fundamental Baptist pastors who, in turn, were elected to serve as directors by independent fundamental Baptist pastors. Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you: 8 These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. 50. And as the word independent implies, we are not all alike. Since the origins of the church, Baptists have said the Bible is the only authority for Christian faith All I do is reply to comments. Its our personal decisions that cause us to who to hell though most of their practices are not biblical, especially the devotions to the Virgin Mary as they especially have her as the intercessor. How about shortchanging the Lord out of 20 minutes of Sunday service time worship for game show gimmickry hype to boost attendance? The Pharisees were filled with hypocrisy and iniquity and my church is not. hypocrite. 37. I wanted to marry my boyfriend, but I want to fix him first. I am unsure if she was already a member before her husband passed or not. (Colossians 1:18; Matthew 18:15-20; Acts 15:22-21; 2 Corinthians 8:1-5, 19, 23), All born-again believers have the privilege of direct access to God. LOL. For you say that it means nothing to swear by Gods Temple, but that it is binding to swear by the gold in the Temple. 17 Blind fools! Exposing the Dangerous Teachings of the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Denomination, Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception 2009-2020, Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception, You Might Be an Independent Fundamental Baptist if, https://baptistdeception.com/bitterness-deception/, https://baptistdeception.com/testimonials/, https://baptistdeception.com/reasons-for-not-accepting-the-kjv-as-gods-preserved-word-a-response-to-pastor-james-melton/, https://www.openbible.info/topics/tithe_in_the_new_testament, http://www.thelaymansbiblicalhandbook.com/, Broad Stroking and Sweeping Generalizations Fallacy, Harold Camping Fails to Predict the Rapture, The 10 Commandments of the Independent Fundamental Baptists, 92-Year-Old Woman Kicked Out of Church for not Tithing. We believe that eternal life is the present possession of every believer (John 6:37-40, 10:27-30; Romans 8:1, 38-39; I Corinthians 1:4-8; I Peter 1:4-5; Jude 1, 2). We believe that God created the entire universe in six literal, twenty-four-hour days (Genesis 1:1-27). For you are like whitewashed tombsbeautiful on the outside but filled on the inside with dead peoples bones and all sorts of impurity. Thats The Holy Spirit speaking to me. Should I choose not to forgive after Christ has already died for him? We believe that God forbids any attempt to alter one's God-given gender identity by any means, including surgery or appearance. I dont believe some of the Catholic doctrine is true, but all have belief in things they believe and unbelief in things they dont believe. I lied just to get government support saying My child and I live alone. That can get a little hairy, though, because you never know when youll end up at a more liberal churchlike yours! You might be an independent Fundamental Baptist if. God forgave because Jesus saved. We believe that any form of homosexuality, lesbianism, bisexuality, beastiality, incest, fornication, adultery, and pornography is a sinful perversion of God's original intent for a physical relationship between a husband and wife. 31. You can clap in church, we did that Mountain, the church I grew up though we didnt do it very often though. People can ask for clarification if they want. You consider it a personal failure if you are not able to find a verse within ten seconds, and secretly proud if you are able to find it right away. I dare say probably not. If your pastor begins his sermon by reading one verse than yells and pounds the pulpit for the next 30 minutes, my current pastor, at Balsam Street Christian Church, doesnt do any of the two as he doesnt use the pulpit to preach his sermons anyways. No one is "born into the church." We dont forgive people for their salvation we cant because we arent Jesus. And yet, they honor the Scofield Bible!!! Womens should not wear pants This is not the case at my congregation. No one leaves on good terms unfortunately. Same position regarding IFB belief 29. I grew up in a IFB school and then university, so I can totally relate. So I did. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Pastor and his wife knew where we lived and probably wondered why, but they never asked or pried. God forgave my husband through Christ. No one should be forced to any belief against his or her will. I mean yeah, theres some truth to a lot of this. 3 So practice and obey whatever they tell you, but dont follow their example. I can tell by your grammar and spelling that you arent very educated (just an observation not a judgment). Duh Get your mind out of the gutter. From a biblical standpoint, Jesus is the ONLY mediator between God and Man and only Jesus can intercede us. You can read more about that here: https://baptistdeception.com/cult/. [5], In 2021, the NIFB-affiliated First Works Baptist Church in El Monte, California was bombed with an improvised explosive device. And theyre most likely convinced that Donald Trumps election is really going to make their civil life better! How come many Americans havent heard of the Independent Fundamental Baptist church movement? IFB church members know how to laugh and have fun. Saying that Baptism is not necessary for salvation but rather it is an obedience to Christ is a liberal view of baptism and is unbiblical. 11 The greatest among you must be a servant. If you believe that your health issue is the result of sin in your life, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 49. The Bible talks about a CHEERFUL GIVER. If a person gets right with God, then they will usually give, not because they have to, rather because they want to give. If you think that the hymnal in the pew is inspired by God, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 23.
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