UK politicians have been cutting our forces (numerically) once or twice a decade since the end of the Korean War, ie over the last 70 years, not just the last 30 years. UK and French jets team up against simulated aerial threat, Britain, Italy and Japan merge combat aircraft projects. Correction. Meanwhile the potential peer foes, Russia and China, were very quietly building up their defensive forces initially and then offensive to a standard able to match a peer adversary. Yes he did, totally out of the blue and unqualified for the job Hunter turned up as a direcyor of Burisma, a Ukrainian gas company, on a juicy contract. With pressure to take a more hawkish stance, he met Nato Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg in Berlin to discuss the next steps. Protect their own borders through forward defence. Ooops! Im Amazed at Germany and Frances response. I think ill have a drink now. Could be a rerun of the 1904 Russian fleet of to the far East didnt go too well for them then but they did attack Traelers of dogger bank. The proliferation of this capability within the new Russian Navy is profoundly changing its ability to deter, threaten or destroy adversary targets. Heavily armed Russian-backed separatists have controlled a swath of eastern Ukraine since 2014 and continue to exchange fire with Ukrainian government forces despite a 2015 ceasefire that ended major hostilities. F35 will also receive SPEAR 3 which also has anti ship capability. The US Putting a small number of troops in Ukraine is a line in the sand a powerful symbol of intent to the Russians of repucussions if they invade. Will it would be nice not to hear from that stroppy self-important brat anymore, I doubt your proposal will solve either of the threats we face; Russian aggression and climate-climate. And hand wash Plane Cleaning popping up everywhere? Bit long in the tooth-just like David, CR!(says he who is about to turn 73). In this second scenario NATO troops/aircraft dont even need to be in Ukraine thereby making it difficult for Putin to complain. Also Congress now has the Trump White House documents related to Jan 6. I am generally centrist and an issues rather than party man and had high hopes for Biden. The core of the Russian navy's Northern Fleet has been observed manoeuvring in and around Irish-controlled waters in recent days, ahead of planned live-fire drills. I cant believe Putin seriously wants to invade Ukraine he would lose far more than he gained. HITLER AND NAPOLEON DID AND LOOK WHERE IT GOT THEM. Commander Ed Moss-Ward, HMS Portland's commanding officer, said: "Escorting warships in UK territorial waters and the adjacent sea areas is routine activity for the Royal Navy. US Secretary of State Antony Blinken will meet Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Wednesday before holding talks with his Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov in Geneva on Friday in the latest attempt to defuse the crisis. Any commander in defence now has Russian forces to the North, East, South and West; it could all get very tasty. With you on this DL, some interim AShMs on all T45/T23sbut Mr Wallace is here in Sydney at the moment. And I know the USA seems to have more fruit-cakes that believe these. I certainly do! When you consider bang for buck (price index), how long until Chinas defense budget alone will be equal? kill chain is very complex to find, track, and then engage a warship at range that doesnt want to be shot at. LOL Ivan you really are poster boy for Putin . Reuters, the news and media division of Thomson Reuters, is the worlds largest multimedia news provider, reaching billions of people worldwide every day. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. As they have plenty of gear around Ukraine already it makes sense that at least some of the 6 are bound for Tartus. Signalling to the Russian regime that we shall not tamely acquiesce should they escalate requires conventional hard power warships and aircraft as well as less conventional capabilities like cyber. Our SSNs will be busy chasing their SSNs, and so each RN surface vessel should be capable of offensive action. Missile attacks would take advantage of Ukraine's weaker anti-missile defences. Lots of disinformation out there I dont understand how Trump takes no blame on either side of the Atlantic for signing the peace deal with the Taliban of all groups but Biden blamed on this board with no push back. Ill think you well find Im disagreeing with a nut job who thinks Salisbury was a UK government conspiracy lol. A group of Russian and Chinese warships were spotted in the Bering Sea several dozen miles off an Alaskan island on September 19, the U.S. Coast Guard said on Monday, confirming Moscow and. he said. The Kremlin also deployed servicemen to Belarus this week, ostensibly for major military operations with the country, sparking fears in neighbouring Lithuania. What is aerial refuelling and how does it work? Ukraine has long accused Russia of having regular troops in the region, something Moscow denies. Russian troops could also move into Belarus, opening a northern front for Ukraine that would put Russian forces closer to Kyiv, Giles said. I think it is sad that Biden never got a shot at the Presidency a decade ago. Without ASuW the RN is badly exposed, and its criminal negligence sending sailors into a warzone without ability to take offensive action. [However] when youre up against a determined opponent on the battlefield you have to go close and personal with your enemy. Cheers dave , I think our boss were trying too make us look on the bright side I doubt if the Careers office would have stated that when we signed up, And yet, of all the capability gaps, this one worries the RN the least. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-03/kremlin-insider-klyushin-is-said-to-have-2016-hack-details. The phrase, and derivatives of the phrase . Agree but the Russians view is that any weapon in hand can be used against an enemy and therefore gets kept. Assassinations of nuclear experts. Agree, that is the most likely route. I have little faith when the top brass commit to building frigates that have no ASW or AsUW capabilities. , As you can see from the pic at the top the Russian ship is within visual range. 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The Royal Navy has shadowed nine Russian warships around the UK in the last two weeks alone - as Vladimir Putin increases his military presence in British waters. The Armys flip ups on procurement have disengaged us from effective land ops in NATO context. It comes after UK dfence chiefs said yesterday they fear Putin will opt for the 'nightmare scenario' of a full invasion of Ukraine as tensions rise towards tipping point. If you remember in WW2 GERMANY wanted to invade us, and we used means of blow up tanks etc to deter them. Can you see hot winded Macron or blustering Boris doing that? The situation is quiet at the moment but when Idlib lights up the Russians will be there in force. Genuine question did Ukraine have 100% complete control of the USSR nuclear weapons that had been stationed in its territory? Dissapointed in Macron, but cant say im surprised. the russian method of fitting a gun,torpedo cruise missile wherever it can fit gives them more powerful vessel than it was designed to be. Russia released footage filmed from a Russian SU-24 bomber flying close to the British ship. Estimates of the numbers of new Russian troops moved closer to Ukraine vary from 60,000 to around 100,000, with a U.S. intelligence document suggesting that number could be ramped up to 175,000. Large cruise missile ship, the Marshal Ustinov, is one of at least three Russian navy ships that have been travelling back from the Mediterranean to their home port in the north of Russia. Our Standards: The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles. This idiot wants Biden to start the war. Morning Douglas. Anti-air systems appear to be a weakness for Ukraine which might be something that the US should focusRead more . There was a table top exercise done by the Navy back in the late 80s. "The Royal Navy will always uphold international law and will not accept unlawful interference with innocent passage," Wallace said. Ryabkov, referring to Moscow's version of events in which a Russian aircraft bombed the path of the British destroyer, said that in future bombs would be sent "not only in its path, but also on target.". Really Ivan ? In a meaningful way I mean putting forces on the ground and in the air. Yep scapegoating the most powerful National leader in the world because his big stupid plan is tell the Russians he wont militarily defend the Ukraine. The official warned the Kremlin: 'Our message, and that of our allies and partners, is that Russia has two choices: diplomacy and de-escalation, or escalation and massive consequences. The Marshal Ustinov, a large cruise missile ship, is one of a. I didnt think anyone could be worse than Trump. Published: 8:51 ET, Jan 24 2023 A RUSSIAN warship armed with "unstoppable" hypersonic missiles is sailing towards the US coast in a show of strength, reports claim. There is also a chance of that senario, Trouble is it is Trumps policies towards NATO ( even threatening to leave it) and distaste for Europe that has given the impetus to Putin to try this on. They have nothing to match it. Will Stewart The huge explosion at the military complex of Parchin, 30 kilometers southeast Tehran. 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. Mr Scholz told reporters it was 'clear that there will be a high price to pay and that everything will have to be discussed should there be a military intervention in Ukraine'. That basically, means the UK has signalled that it is disengaging from effective land operations in a NATO context. Turkeys first dedicated intelligence-gathering ship, TCGUfuk(A-591), was officially commissioned into service at Istanbul Shipyard in Tuzla, Istanbul, on 14 January, smail Demir, head of Turkeys Presidency of Defence Industries (SSB), has announced. Romania, in particular, has sounded the alarm over Russian activities in the waterway, and has gone on a $10 billion spending spree since 2014, buying U.S. F-16s, rocket artillery and advanced. A Russian military ship armed with hypersonic missiles has sailed through the Strait of Dover, the narrowest part of the English Channel - only a few miles away from the English coast. In an announcement on Monday, the agency said the surprise. However, it does look like everybody is going to fight back. Russia's warns Britain over navy confrontation, Raab: Russia being 'predictably inaccurate', Britain says it will always defend seafaring rights, Russia says London is sowing barefaced lies. I was considering calling them coffins but ill go with obsolete. The trick is to sort the rubbish and the facts, with good journalism there is always some good Intel to be gleaned. General Carter, who joined the Royal Green Jackets in 1977, has been head of the armed forces since June 2018. Look what we did to help France in WW1/2. Ties between London and Moscow have been on ice since the 2018 poisoning with a Soviet-developed nerve agent known as Novichok of ex-double agent Sergei Skripal, a mole who betrayed hundreds of Russian agents to Britain's MI6 foreign spy service. Six Russian landing ships have sailed past Britain sparking speculation they are bound for an impending 'full-scale invasion' of Ukraine - as Kiev warns President Putin has 'nearly completed' the build-up of troops along the border. I doubt you can stand at all given the amount of hallucinogens you must be partaking. We have got troops there, albeit only a small number in a training and advisory role still complicates the plot for Putin. Will Stewart Could you tell me what youre drinking? Er, US forces are in Poland and no doubt in the Ukraine. (NATO will do nothing without US Support) Alternatively, NATO could station aircraft in Ukraine bordering countries and work with the Ukrainian AF to secure Ukraine airspace again daring Putin to attack NATO Aircraft. I apologize if you took offense with my tone, its not my normal voice. The group thinkers on here have no idea of the N2 capabilities of RU and without AsUW the RN is in danger of being decimated before tea time. I agree that its a risk, but one which they appear to be content to manage.. I know Sean but she would certainly Grind Vlad Putin down, Thats true enough, she grinds me down and I accept the science behind climate change!! Rocks?' What sonar or anti submarine equipment will t31 possess? THE Royal Navy has shadowed nine Russian warships stalking Britain's coast in the past two weeks. Well on your point about coming to Ukraines aid in any meaningful way, I would disagree to an extent. The task group were joined by RAF Typhoon and F-35s jets, plus tankers RFA Tideforce and RFA Tiderace. Royal Navy warship @HMSPortland is tracking Russian guided missile frigate Admiral Gorshkov and accompanying tanker Kama as they sail in international waters close to the UK. Britain's BBC released footage from the ship showing a Russian coast guard warning that he would shoot if the British ship did not change course. 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Last night, Kiev hailed Britain for sending anti-tank weapons and troops as an 'important first step' to help the country defend itself. Those deliveries are ongoing, and there are more scheduled in the coming weeks.. Type 23 frigate HMS Northumberland, based at Devonport, watched the movements of Udaloy-class destroyer the Vice-Admiral Kulakov as it sailed north-west of the Outer Hebrides. Your logic makes no sense. Sounds like we havent learned any lessons from history! Morning Sean. 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The Ropucha-class landing ship can transport 10 main battle tanks and 340 troops or 12 BTRs and 340 troops or 3 main battle tanks, 3 2S9 Nona-S, 5 MT-LBs, 4 army trucks and 313 troops or 500 tons of cargo. At least they didnt decimate their armed forces like the UK and most of its allies as a result of peace dividend at end of cold war. 'Also, if he just occupies the eastern regions he will never be able to take back the whole of Ukraine because of the inevitable strengthening of Ukrainian forces in the remainder of the country in the aftermath. So we should of ordered NSM after all, as interim? I wouldnt imagine it would be allowed under international law. Moscow could launch an attack on Ukraine from Crimea and seize territory up to the Dnieper River that could serve as a natural barrier against any Ukrainian counter-offensive, said Konrad Muzyka, director of the Poland-based Rochan consultancy. Putin has huge domestic discontent for which the Ukraine crisis is a distraction. A mere 3 BGs in total and designed just to reassure the people of Poland, Latvia and Lithuania. The German government even went so far as to brief journalists on Tuesday that cutting Russia off from international banking systems - the so-called 'nuclear option' of sanctions - was off the table, prompting angry denials from Washington. I think Putin is going to have to attack or look weak. Inspite of their age, the Russian Ropucha class have been fitted with AK-630 CIWS, easily as good as Phalanx. Or how much BS the kremlin comes up with, I think RT chat forum is your home you have many friends there Ivan lol. The RN suffered badly in the Falklands through short sightedness and gaps in capabilities, and is sadly doomed to suffer again unless it takes the enemies and their capabilities and tactics seriously. No warning shots had been fired and no bombs had been dropped in the path of the Royal Navy destroyer Defender, it said. He also works for the NHS. "These are Ukrainian waters and it was entirely right to use them to go from A to B," Johnson said. Russian Navy ships can be seen in satellite imagery approaching the Ukrainian Coast. As to Corbin(Corbyn) and American born Johnson, well in my opinion Corbyn is poison and Johnson is a clown beyond redemption Regards Geoff(who is btw an ardent Americophile), Douglass post about this being Bidens fault instead of Putin and his yes men is just not true and I dont think its the time to encourage them. Still better than a 4.5 gun. Hi mate. Im for one are hoping cool heads prevail. Id still bet the Poles will be doing a lot of footwork on how to help the Ukrainians. How does that relate to this story? U.S. officials have said Russia might attack Ukraine as early as this month when the ground will be harder, making it easier for tanks and other armour to move swiftly. Final talks on NI post-Brexit deal as UK PM meets EU chief - No 10. Even so, Ukraine's Defense Ministry said it was accelerating its plan to form reserve battalions, a move that would help it rapidly deploy 130,000 recruits to bolster its 246,000-strong armed forces. The Royal Navy has kept close watch as four Russian ships sheltered from rough weather in the seas off the east coast of Scotland. The US Coast Guard in Alaska came across Russian and Chinese vessels on an ordinary patrol earlier this month, the agency has said. See today's front and back pages, download the newspaper, order back issues and use the historic Daily Express newspaper archive. Mind you cant complain about my pension, thank God for SERPS. Were you not barred a couple of years ago from this site? Russian frigate Admiral Gorshkov is closely monitored by #SNMG1 ship HMS Portland in the North Sea on Jan. 9 #DeterandDefend #StrongerTogether pic.twitter.com/6DN7EmL7EO. There are only two roads from Crimea that could be blocked or destroyed, a potential weakness, he said. Maybe, but are you disputing the accuracy of my first sentence? Invasion of a NATO state or even probably Sweden Im sure would. He is testing NATO unity and Bidens willingness to risk the wrath of those voters while knowing any faltering step in those voters eyes be it commitment of weakness will bring back a Trump style Govt withRead more , I do wonder if another motivating factor could be something more base than that. The jams at US West Coast ports have been due to the global supply chain being out of whack. "There is nothing unusual here: it is commonplace, but this time the ship is equipped with the latest hypersonic rocket system Zircon, which has no match. Yes China has been throwing money at increasing the capabilities and sheer size of its military in it race to become the worlds dominant hyper-power. News Group Newspapers Limited in England No. To inquire about a licence to reproduce material, visit our Syndication site. If NSM is good enough for USN & Germany its good enough for RN. https://www.janes.com/defence-news/naval-weapons/latest/turkish-navy-commissions-first-intelligence-gathering-ship. THE Royal Navy has shadowed nine Russian warships stalking Britain's coast in the past two weeks. NSM in clear sea lanes, is perfectly suited to keeping enemy at arms length. good job that idiot trump doesnt have access to the red button or the west would be rubble. Going after the Ukraine neatly side steps the maritime flank to some extent. Putin praised the ship's strength as it sailed off on its journey, saying: "The frigate Admiral Gorshkov is embarking on a long sea voyage. So is his agenda really totally different? They would be very worried about Wildcat with Sea Venom & Martlet, and Merlin Mk2 with Stingray capability. I thought you might of recovered somewhat, after that meltdown you had a couple of years ago? Astutes dont need to surface to receive Comms, they are more then capable of receiving them whilst deep. The BBC said shots were fired and that as many as 20 Russian aircraft were "buzzing" the British ship. I think youll find the Poles really ramping up, unlike us Brits who have more horses than tanks, the Poles have superannuated their winged hussars moumts and morphed onto modern MBTs. Its a game to stop NATO advancing further east, and a political statement. https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2021/03/17/us-navy-set-to-take-delivery-of-the-latest-version-of-its-tomahawk-missile/. Tobias Ellwood said Russian President Vladimir Putin was taking full advantage of a weakened West. Critics fear it will increase Germany's reliance on Russian energy supplies. At this distance we could also send a cutting out party/borders Im sure! Certainly, if small, but it isnt going to be sinking any frigates or destroyers let alone a cruiser many of which are being fitted with anti shell or missile weapons. Some operating virtually continuously for a couple of years or more on a return trip every month. Whilst the Canada and now Mexico border problems are now very real indeed. Russia is allied with Iran, need I say more. One of Russia's newest, most advanced warships - the Admiral Gorshkov - docked in Havana some 90 miles from the southern tip of Florida, amid Russia's warnings to the U.S. about deploying missiles near Russia, the Associated Press reported Monday. The ships, which can each carry up to 25 armoured personnel carriers, were deployed three days ago but it remains unclear if they are heading for Ukraine. But the Ukrainian ambassador to the UK, Vadym Prystaiko, called on extra help from Western powers. The rest of Ukraine is a sovereign state and fully independent of anyone. So, USA has no troops in Ukraine? Commander Philip Harper, Severn's commanding officer, said: "In very challenging conditions with rough weather, Severn and several other British and allied ships have spent 20 days ensuring that Russian transiting warships remain under our watchful eyes.". If anybody wants to do a deep dive into the political corruption the FBI has to tackle, I recommend bookmarking/following ericgarland on Twitter. Their problem then, as now, in terms of getting into the EU, was/is corruption. Actually, its an interesting point. In such cluttered close waters, the 4.5 inch is probably the best weapon and only weapon you would need. However, the IDF has a long standing policy of refusing to confirm or deny allegations ofRead more . Russia plans to deploy KALIBR capability on all new design construction nuclear and non-nuclear submarines, corvettes, frigates, and larger surface ships. Britain said the shots were part of a Russian gunnery exercise. He has set out his demands publicly (Ukraine never to join NATO, EFP troops to withdraw from Poland and the Baltics as a minimum) and he will then withdraw his troops we in the west will not agree to any of that. View our online Press Pack. I really cant believe he wants to invade Ukraine. That was due to the unusually large number of landing craft in the Baltic. SAMs/ASMs/AAMs mostly new plus a handfull of big ticket items but the vast majority are just 40 year old designs with a new paint job and go faster stripes. And the balls to back up that posture with action if necessary. The only time there is a difference, is when a SM is deep, sprinting to a new position. True , I seem to remember one the OSINT Bunker pod cast guys saying if they start to move Air assets near the Ukraine border than probably the war is on , they have just done that. The combat readiness of your fighting units degrade, morale becomes a problem and your armour becomes less effective as maintaince for war becomes a problem. It seems a good time to propose it in the commons. According to French newspaper La Voix du Nord, another Russian tanker appeared to be heading to the Atlantic Ocean, sailing along the Boulonnais coast on the Strait of Dover, 20 miles away from Great Britain. A capability upgrade as and when needed, might well happen. To what end? Lauren Lewis For Mailonline Xi has exactly the same problems internally in China and may be actually undetaking a modern genocide of the Uighur for which the Taiwan crisis is his distraction. You forgot Estonia which is British led! Almost all forms of sanctions being discussed have a greater blowback potential on both Europe and the US than their damage on Russia. 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Would tend to agree with you Graham, to what end does Putin need to invade Ukraine? Britain seems to be the only Western power doing anything regarding the imminent Russian invasion of Ukraine. Also most of that Russian buildup is into barracks so not suffering. Russia summoned the British ambassador in Moscow for a formal diplomatic scolding after the warship breached what the Kremlin says are its territorial waters but which Britain and most of the world say belong to Ukraine. Well the attacks came from Yemen itself as did missiles over night last night they arent coming from Iranian soil. Trump kissing Putins ass in Helsinki infuriated a lot of Americans. Next time round-Hillary Clinton vsRead more , Grandpa Biden has been engaged with the Pentagon bigwigs and was informed that Troops had already been pulled out of Vietnam .Now have your 40 winks and Cocoa, You cant blame Trump for this. I tell you what happened ; the worst thing that people in this Country did, come out of Europe. The assessment, seen by CNN, described the situation as 'difficult' and warned Russian President Vladimir Putin was 'trying to split and weaken the European Union and NATO' while also 'limiting the capabilities of the United States to ensure security on the European continent'. The USA didnt pick UkraineRead more . A senior State Department official said: 'This is neither an exercise nor normal troop movement. History shows the wisdom of that comment, it was expressed by Montgomery slightly differently. Seems a bit left-field but the Swedes seem to be taking things seriously. The Coast Guard said the ship is . It was not immediately clear what equipment would be arriving today. 'The current deployments are versatile.
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