Excellent point. The only thing you should be doing with it is adding it to your banned website filter. http://www.discountgolfwholesale.com. I wouldnt buy irons, or driver if the web site smells funny (web-page errors, approximate English..), no customer service you can contact. Anyway, I must say that theyre good quality fakes if there is such a thing. They say the clubs come from a OEM supplier. The other thing is I have sold clubs that I reshafted myself since club building is a hobby for me so the ferrule may not have been an oem replacement and or may have had small layer of epoxy even after I cleaned it. Enough to tell you not to deal with them Todd. Go to a Roger Dunn or golf Galaxy get your clubs there. Hope to see you back. The physical signs seem good, but Im still afraid. I was a bit hesitant at first, since the rep told me that they are 100% genuine OEM equipment but for a fraction of the cost (these clubs are retailed $1100-$1300), so I purchased them. Hes been using his new clubs and they look great. I have now turned the matter over to US Customs for their investigation. I mean, really, 1500 sets available cheap. Many friends have tried my clones and find no dropoff in performance. I purchased a set of TaylorMade r7 CGB Max Graphite from an online store at an unbelievably low price. When can you find the best deals in golf equipment? In this case it looks like Edin Watts, Golfsmith and TGW are all legit. 6123319303 Fax , Domain servers in listed order: If it works for you buy it. just came accross the site http://www.golfmartdiscount.com , everything on there is cheap as chips, they claim to be offical calloway and taylormade internet retailers, anyone have any previous dealing with this lot? Email: Registrar Name. If its a fake, Id love to see how far I could hit the real thing. Stop asking about the possibility of counterfit clubs! Now I ask myself,does internet purchasers have any protection against this. Hi Dan D i have also just been scammed by the same site topgolfmall with a set of Diablo Callaways so i to wish i had seen these type of sites first. There prices are much lower then any others I have seen. this is by far the cheapest offering of this driver i have found. Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com I know I probably sound like a representative but I assure I am just a customer. i just purchased an order of ap2 irons from bestsalegolf.com, i was just curious if anyone has information on this website as to if there clubs are real or fake, if you could let me know it would be greatly appreciated! If it seems like it might be coming from a questionable seller, or the price is too good to be true, could almost guarantee it's fake. Why would you want to make a comparison with Rockbottomgolf.com when Rockbottomgolf has previously admitted it does not receive golf clubs through the authorised channels provided by the makers of such big brands as Titleist, Ping, Callaway, Mizuno, Taylormade, Cobra etc? Clubs had an easy weight in the swing. IP History: 2 changes on 3 unique name servers over 0 years. Can you therefore confirm whether these clubs have been made at a Callaway manufacturing site or whether the materials have been purchased and put together by a someone else. I repeat from previous posts, the world-wide web is awash with counterfeit clubs. + $45.00 shipping. Stay away from golfsaletime.com. So most likely I will be paying a few hundred more for a new set, but at least I know theyll be legit and all mine. Thanks again for the great customer service! I too am looking to buy something from them.. did you and was the deal ok ? Seems legit. They have the best feel ever in my experience. At least you know where to go if something goes wrong. Should I go directly to the credit card com pany or to PayPal. You expression of pleasure whilst participating in this forum is a worry. Ive disputed the charge with my cc company and am awaiting resolution. ITs all true about buying cheap clubs. But I am fairly certain. Email Search: is associated with about 5 domains @"A.G. Pennypacker " cant wait to get out tomorrow morning. I was wondering if there were perhaps fakes out there that could even have gotten into official dealer stocks. Do the right thing, go to your local retailer, handle the clubs, hit some balls with them, ask questions, get the right club for you, not copies of the pretty pictures you see on the internet. beijingshixichengqu NO55, 100000 And dont forget the most important reason. Why do these companies ship work and resources out of our domestic economy? They let me know that they were definitely counterfeit. BUYER BEWARE!!!!! Try to get THAT fixed! Normally, I can buy gift cards for 10% to 15% off. Phone number in HK is non existing no such no. Super street Notice how the counterfeit sits extremely closed when sitting on the ground. I just posted up the best fake back photo I could find. I 00:12:48 Stuff breaking apart and all that..fake. Thanks! I traded my old set of CB-301s for them plus some cash. Admin Phone Ext. Club head could be a different shape than an authentic club. My warning to any website with names such as this one. I kind of stumbled upon this post and saw you mentioned GolfEtail.com a few times so though I would chime in. i recently purchased a set of Callaway Razr clubs from http://www.golfdiscounttown.com and am hugely concerned that i have been scammed.does anyone have any info on these guys? Then I wanted to upgrade and bought a set of Nickent 3dx rcs off ebay, hybrids included, $149. instead of 70 gms. Daisy 00:21:42 I have been making custom clubs for over 5 years. the typhoon in guangzhou. I have seen posts on this forum about golfetail being legit. I see about 30 different website under many different name of business while same contact us and see Chicago. Sometimes I feel like people red these articles and might never use the info. Here is the whois info for this site You guys can look these up yourself, just go to google and type in whois golfdiscounting.com and then select the whois info for that domain. in China and assemble in The USA. Hosel length is much shorter on the counterfeit. Im not sure that it follows that if a seller doesnt have an account with a major manufacturer that they must sell fakes talk about a stretch in logic! Learn how your comment data is processed. Thanks for the heads up. please help. I still use Ebay on golf items but instead of buying clubs, I started buying golf gift cards. http://www.golfstockonline.com/goods-765-Cleveland+CG7+Black+Pearl+Irons.html. That's why he went into business for himself and founded Miura, one of the best-known manufacturers of high-quality . makes no representations or warranties of any kind, expressed or implied, as to the operation of the site or the information, content, materials, or products included on this site. I almost bought the knock-offs. PLEASE DONT DO IT! NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! beijingshixichengqu NO55, 100000 Started Tuesday at 05:32 AM, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here, Please put any questions of comments here. And Srixon is typically not a popular brand to counterfeit simply because they are not as popular of a brand. It appears to be well made. Thanks. Additionally, the backside of the club must be 24k gold plated; the colour of gold should not be so dark. FAKE FAKE FAKE. See what they say. Sawa set of callaway razr x 3-9ps for 388.00 wanted to know if this site is la git thanks. fax: Technical Contact Information : let me know if you are still interested in our clubs I cant put with my real Odyssey, and dont want to shell out 180 on the real thing. Did you take the club to an authorized retailer to check it? no risk of getting counterfeits. We tried you MasterCard but the number does not seem to exist. I should have it up in a few days. disclaims any and all warranties, expressed or implied, for any merchandise offered on this site. Feel sad, very embaressed. If its fake item- fill a complain at eBay complain center- and Ull get your money back from the sellers or from Ebay. I like the driver but I would not buy from them anymore. So do contact the brand you are looking for and ask for your nearest outlet then there genuine there no such thing as an OEM i have been told. For some reason I got a thanks for communicating message and was cut off None of the counterfeit web sites that I have looked at offer left-handed clubs, no. I would not be dealing with a company like that for my golf clubs. Admin City: Xiamen Just looking for the best deals without getting ripped off. I support my local PGA professionals with genuine items over the net. Browse MacGregor's clubs, bags and outerwear. ROCHESTER, N.Y.(BUSINESS WIRE)RockBottomGolf.com, a top internet golf retailer, announced today that the company has been named by Entrepreneur Magazine as one of Americas fastest growing companies in their annual Hot 500 list published in their August 2007 issue. Other online retailers have them for 799. Wow, Ive been looking for a site like yours for ages. Has anyone ever dealt with a website called: I am very skeptical on this website as the written English looks terrible and there is no sign of their registration with UK companies house on the register. All sounds bogus to me. Maxfli. Normally, the counterfeit serial numbers are in a different font and specifically a larger font. Tech Email: [emailprotected], Billing Contact: They have everything made in China because its cheap!! The finish is different with the face looking much different than the rest of the club on the counterfeit. So I cancelled the dispute but adviced Paypal that they were selling fake Ping clubs. I have not done business with any of the above, nor do I recommend any of them. Its selling really low price gear. On our counterfeit Vokey, the authentic club had a satin finish and the counterfeit was shinier. Thus meaning, you hit a 3 iron, its like youre hitting a 4 iron. Here is my assessment of the clubs that I posted on their website: Ordered a set of the Tour Response 950s (Cleveland CG7 clones) the day they were available. Why? No composite materials. Heres the website and take a look for yourself at how well that worked out for them. I have just received a set of ladies cobra s3 max combo set. So I repeat my accusation. 2420 E Hennepin Ave Anybody ever heard of this people? The finishing does not look like the traditional Miura finishing to me, and honestly they just look odd to me. : As a result counterfeiters have followed suit, but they are not putting it in the same location. Has anyone had any experience with this site? http://www.onlineeconomygolf.com/Cheap-Callaway-X-22-Irons-Sale-11.html. Bags are made in china anyway! I have emailed them and they said this All clubs are original with serial numbers.Two reasons contribute to the competitive price. They are therefore made to have the same performance as the name brands. Started Tuesday at 05:32 AM, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here, Please put any questions of comments here. spent $530. Your previous content has been restored. DOnt put them all in the same basket but be on your guard. Bill City: yiwu Again a case of wrong info, they are ignorant at best and crooks at worst. they tell you they are real clubs, they are not and string you along about how they will refund your money, not. xielunyong I am very cynical, but also kinda cheap. So theres a lot of people asking questions and a lot of opinions out there and from what I can see whos helping who what are the Brands doing about it I have contacted one and they sure know about it but cannot help not even give advise on where to report such a fake site to warn people off. So they turn to the U.S. government to enforce U.S. patents. I am looking at buying a set of Callaway clubs, and have come across http://www.golfbuyitonline.com which appear have some really good offers on at the moment. Me13:28:40 But we have only been in contact with a couple sources. If you really want good quality golf club, go to your local golf store and they will give you fitting and measure and you buy the golf club from them! Some of them said, that is fake brand of golf set. Their sale must be almost counterfeits goods. Though I wish I saw it a bit earlier, as I bought a set of mx200s off ebay. They seem to offer a pretty good deals. Scotty Squareback and Odyssey OG #7, Srixon ZX5 MKII Irons 4-PW Like New and a Titleist U505 4 Iron, OG Nike TW13 PING i59 irons Vessel Stand bag (trade), BGT Stability tour black with Scotty Cameron pistolini grip. I 00:14:19 As I read in a comment I would like to be able to hit the two side by side to see if there really is a difference or are we just being taken advantage of from the big boys by having the product made for say $100.00 and then selling it to us for $1000.00 I am not sure what angers me most. Beware, the clubs may be new, and from the factory that makes legit clubs during the day, however, they dont claim to be OEM quality. Counterfeit clubs usually have this sticker near the shaft band on the top of the shaft so it is easily visible. I guess the irony in all of this is you just cant trust the Chinese to sell authentic Made in China products! Outlaw Golf Association Member #7, Congrats! If they were professionally built then the seller should be able to provide a receipt showing who built them and cost. Registrant: I bought from http://www.BudgetGolf.com and it was a good. They claim it is all authentic but, after reading all the above, now Im not so sure. I recently purchased a Taylor Made 2008 Burner rescue club on ebay from golfetail. Hi, just found this site and it is very informative. now , some of the fakes are made better than the original ones I didnt use them, but the way they look and feel- even the pros wont figure out, Does anyone has feedback on the site : http://www.myonlinegolfshops.com/ Its gotta be fake a titleist driver for 200$. That annoyed us very much because we had gone to great trouble to supply you with the very latest golf clubs. Anyone with a strong physique might manage such heavy clubs of course but why suffer poor paintwork and the chance of heads coming off and injuring a child. I never heard of overstock clubs being sold. I am more worried than you since I live in Malaysia, and anything that is not genuine would cost much more for restitution. Miura "1957 Series" KM-006 Forged Blade Putter Right Handed. How about gurugolf and empire-golf? i am also trying to get my money back let me know how you do.they say you can send Your previous content has been restored. Feel ease to buy from Empire Golf. Hi Guys Bill FAX: +86.85228691896 You guys like to spin your wheels too much. Those golfers who have to have the authentic clubs with matching serial numbers and think that will improve thier game , go to your pro shop and get your clubs , and rest easy , Those of you who will buy on ebay take a chance , those of you who want the real thing and try a chinese wbsite , good luck with that , and dont bitch about it later . Bill Phone Ext. His reply was that I should just refuse the club when it comes but he would have to charge me $20 because he is out $50 s&h. I bought TM R11 from Rockbottomgolf.com;do you think its real. Go on the website, wait until somebody online wants to help you via chat. Ive fallen for this kind of thing as well and to my cost. We will also donate 5 percent of your purchase price to help clear the pollution in the skies of China. Another clue. I was looking at some Callaway X-20 irons on Ebay from golfetail.com. Has anyone puchased any clubs from GolfDiscount.com? 2420 E Hennepin Ave bottom line, they are not all honest seller but some of them are honest and give great service and sell original stuff. December 2017 - Started my golf journey with a set of used Taylormade M1 irons 4-PW February 2018 - Fitted for my first set- Callaway Rogue 4-PW December 2018 - End of my first full season. Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. A2C2 Counterfeit Parts Testing. I think one identifier that the clubs were legit was that the factory invite that asks you to register the clubs and join the ping family that is tied to the handle directly. Maybe the company does make them for Adams or who ever. http://www.myordergolf.com/index.php The Chinese workers (who work in the factories) will steal the mould of the golf clubs and sell them for thousands of dollars. The chance here is that they got screwed and are passing the screwing on, but you weed that out when you check the pics and ask the questions. Paste as plain text instead, . Factory-golf.com #4-#9 PW, SW and AW all for $339. Of course fakegolfclubs.com will have the cheapest golf clubs in the world. Althoughironically many are funded by Taiwanese investorsinteresting huh. This listing is just a compilation from the comments section of this article. If they dont cancel your order, you should be worried!!! I asked if they hold accounts for the approved purchased of golf clubs from the manufacturers of such brands as Titleist, Taylormade, Callaway, Cobra, Mizuno and Ping. I had the opportunity speak with him over the phone. I even played a round of golf with one of the reps from the store and even he could not tell the difference in performance wise between the real or fake ones. When I questioned their online customer service they said these are original Pings with serial numbers ? Titleist serial numbers in the past were mostly etched into the metal itself. Last Updated on: 08-Jun-09, Administrative Contact: The other is a cheap imitation which hits the ball considerably less distance. I suspect Ive made a huge mistake and will attempt to send them back. Hey any word on this sitejust bought some R7 CGB MAX and now im wondering if they are fakes!!!! I was about to order from golfleading as the price of clubs appears really attractive. Look for sloppy paint work or decals that are not placed properly. Both are hard to find now-a-days in decent shape, let alone decent shape AND conforming groove. Counterfiet sellers copy the icon to their webpage, but it doesnt work like it is suppose too. Does anyone know if http://www.golfwholesaleseller.com is a legit website? Spot The Fake. These are the non-retailers that Ill buy from. Im just wondering whether it is legit or not, Where does Rockbottomgolf.com get its golf clubs from? I really hope they are not fake. Does anyone know of this site is selling fakes? Thank you for the post. I called both Taylormade and Callaway to confirm. I am trying to figure out if the set of FT-ibrids I just purchased on ebay from thegolfhabit are authentic callaway irons. I checked the swing weight on each iron. I have noticed that the soles of the heads do show marks (i.e. and was wondering if anybody has purchased anything from this site and if the clubs are counterfeit or real. I dont care what brand it is as I know your website is totally genuine, just send me the best youve got. stuck on tp labelsas well ! And this leaves much more room for mischief. They removed serial numbers from authentic watches to eliminate the tracing of the product and sold them through internet storefronts that do not have the original retailers name. The complete Jaffick set reminds me of Ping's G-range with a hint of TaylorMade mixed in. With sharp lines, a compact head size and a minimalist shape, MB101 irons are built for comprehensive workability and offer a purity of feel that is unsurpassed in golf. Not titanium either like it is suppose to be. To be eligible, the founder must be actively involved in the company, the company cannot be a spinoff or a division of a larger company, and company sales for 2006 must be at least $1 million. In looking at the photos on the Chinese sites, nothing jumps out at me as obvious signs of being fake. As for the suggestion that you shouldnt be buying better clubs if youre not good enough to be playing themor whatever that argument was.its just a faulty idea. Remember golf club manufacturers spends millions of dollars developing and researching their products to make what in the end is a precision instrument. Contacted the store they shipped a new pair directly and the only cost for me was 10 pounds shipping. The leathe work was not great, non straight lines and dodgy paint jobs. They are Frauds B,i ordered that excact club and it never even shipped.After further research ive discovered they are fakes.Save your money n spend the extra 70bucks. First red flag is there is only an e-mail to contact the seller. any information would be greatly appreciated. Admin Postal Code: 322000 They gave me a credit after I emailed the seller and told him the club was available and ready for shipper of his choice to pick up. Thanks Hack454, I did some exploring on my own and found a forum with nothing but bad things about that company. Have read reviews of this site and some seem to have had bad customer service. I am Marc Ducey, Co-Founder of GolfEtail. - It might just be the photos, but the ink fills look globby, The URL is: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Mens-Golf-head-MIURA-Forged-Golf-wedges-head-52-56-60-wedges-clubs-head-/332198470125?hash=item4d589261ed:g:gVcAAOSwuLZY5qaN. I dont believe that price is so low and DONT ORDER. Buy from TGW or other reputable online retailer. They are made in China but are assembled in the United States. I actually discet them with my chop saw to check the insides then box up and store. They sell more gold clubs than anyone on Ebay and have the most favorable ratings. We didnt get to be a Top Rated Seller with over 225,000 positive feedback on eBay with only words, its your comments that got us there. Dont look at the pictures or words relating to the golf clubs. I think some of these clubs are starting to make their way into retailers as used clubs. Its the only way to be sure youre getting the real deal. Now a division of TaylorMade, Maxfli offers a series of golf balls. Maybe they're drop shipping. , knowing after a winning bid, you will get the genuine products. If you check the website where you bought and check the others website from the other people that posted here you will see that all of them are made in the same way!! Any info on this site. But remember they are only pictures and what arrives from the courier can be two completely different products. disclaims all warranties, expressed or implied, including, but not limited to, implied warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose. Dear sir, Has anyone ever done business with these people? It says they get sent from essex, england and not china, but not sure if there fake? There's a good chance that fake miuras are sold on ebay/aliexpress/dhgate that have no visually discernible difference from legit ones. Also cant decide from Taylormade Burner 2.0 irons or Callaway X-22s or 24s irons any suggestions??? They both have superb customer service for component companies and have been around since the mid 90s. Hi! Should I stay away or what are some question that I could ask to make sure he is legit? Miura is known for world class forgings. No mention of Golf Wholesaleseller.com SO IT IS A CHINA COMPANY AND I AM STUPID. I also called cobra directly to inquire about golfetail because the website is not listed on cobras list of authorized retailers. Contact elicited a crack sound, and a definite connect feel in the hands. Heres an example of a golf store that sold many products & operated out of the United States (shipped straight from the factory HAHAHA). Record last updated on..: Mon, Nov 03, 2008, Administrative Contact: I 00:20:12 Other smaller review sites can be helpful as well in sending you in the right direction. Copyright 2023. It appears that they are casting the fakes with a texture, it can be seen pretty good here. Over the past week we have been[], What Golf Item Do You Want The Most for X-MAS? GPPGolf.com, one of our site sponsors had a great idea for a contest for you guys during the X-Mas season. Very happy with the product Thanks to mygolfspy for excellent website and this specific Forum. Higgins, Russell Brien glad to see your comments on the topic. I found cheaponlinegolf.com to offer incredible prices on Scotty Cameron on lots of other brands known to enforce a pretty strict MAP (like Ping, Titleist, Mizuno) I determined this by noting that at address the labeling on the shafts was visible whereas the genuine Ping clubs have the labeling on the underside at address. There simply aren't many other clubs in existence that look as good as the CB57s. Bye! http://www.golfulove.com. Young man that started the company went to Purdue University and was a fraternity brother of a friend of mines son. The evil Chinese counterfeiter is unfairly utilizing the golf companies intellectual property and cloning their products. I have been involved in counterfeit clubs as a writer for a local golf publication. Is it safe to buy an ironset from them (New Adams Idea Black CB2 irons 6-PW+AW $299.99). Removable weights may not line up properly as in the picture below. Need to ask your favour here. Select Grip: Golf Pride Tour Wrap They have good feedback rating, but the clubs they are selling is possibly 70-80% of the MRP. Jeff. I would not purchase from them Michael. I am glad you had a good experience with them Chris. I bought a D2 Titleist online. and its 3-9 and SW. i guess they dont sell a PW.. as anyone else heard of this website?? Put those things together and you have one of the best feeling iron sets I've ever laid my hands on . IS your sanity really worth the extra $30-$40 dollars of savings? Has anyone bought clubs from easygolforder.com? Minneapolis, Minnesota 55413 Also, you said they are shipping from China. Says they are out of Chicago. He deleted his ad in the bst after telling him they were fake. Watch out. Same scam dif sites. not published by the company): Pick it up, and dont go anywhere near this site with it. Registrar History: 1 registrar I searched on http://www.easybuygolf.com and didnt find much, but checked the whois record using whois.domaintools.com and it was from China. Usually, when a website has other affiliate websites (usgolfsale.com & golfsales365) this puts up a red-flag, immediately! having said that taylormade will NOT confirm serial numbers anymore, so what theyre saying is that there is no way to know if these are authentic. I recently bought some irons off of this same seller and wondered if you ever got official word whether your clubs were real. OK so much for describing the difference between fakes and clones. See below the respsone to an email I sent to shop of Golf. I just got the mp 52s by mizuno. Cobra F6 3, 4 hybrids Matrix Red Tie Stiff The counterfeit Scotty Cameron grip on the bottom is totally different than the authentic. Please rest assured to purchase from us. In the meantime, I have found 8 other auctions on Ebay for just Talormade clubs which I am sure are from the same seller even though the email address is different for most of them. Has anybody had any kind of transaction with them. STEAL THESE FROM ME! Thanks a lot for the help Elson.Sounds easier than going to the shop!!! Their prices seem good but not outrageously so. but stay away from suno golfeven their tee will be fake one ( youl pay for tee, you will receive toothpick hhihihi. Not only are the club heads counterfeit but so is everything else. As part of my writings, I spend many $$$ buying counterfeits direct from the factory in China. Ive been emailing them and they say they sell OEMs but they have a gmail account and their customer service has been very short as far as responses. Heads-up. also known as thegolfwarehouse.com : Golf Spy, I just ran across this website yesterday and was wondering if you were familiar with them and if they are Legit as far as Authenyic Clubs? The MC-501 irons are metallic and angular, as sophisticated as they are simple. Also we have no support for the equipment when it breaks or needs adjusting. They claim the the clubs are 100% authentic, and worry free from chinese knockoffs,but after reading this forum ,I have my doubts. Like they said, if its too good to be true, because it is Pay a little more and buy them from tgw.com or golfsmith.com at lest you know they are legit and surely will be on Ping web site as authorized dealer Try to gfind golfshop365 pn any manufacturer website, Is hurricanegolf affiliated with diamondtour? Thats when I started researching fake sites. Address: UK. All good? Anyway, all those sites lead back to a place named Hensol Golf Academy. Any info on these two Ebay sellers? they are selling callaway x 22 irons for 399.00. the clubs look legit all the details look really good, but the grips do have a rubber smell to them. I did, however, purchase a Ping G15 Driver from Golfwholesale18.com after I demoed it a few times at the range and it looks, feels and performs the same. Counterfeiters are not interested in precision just your money. I was wondering if the callaway iron sets on the website link china are real? The first respone from this company was to ask me to cancel the Paypal dispute and then they would refund my payment ! How would I spot a fake if I can only see them in pictures? return shipping can be hugely expensive (iron return quoted by DHL as $240 US). He does have a very good seller rating. thanks, I meant ebay for that matter. I was recently caught up in this looking for more products for our web site. Well the big OEMs will tell youthe benefits and rewards (profitsgo figure) are just much larger then the risk of someone knocking off their club. of course they are fake! This is simply the Golf retail industry trying to protect their markets,albeit with some dubious claims,but business is business and alls fair in a dog eat dog business,:)). Bugger. are these authentic clubs if not and i recieve them can I get a full refund? Who are these major retailers and why cant the major retailers sell the same goods at reduced prices and save on any losses? I sent an email to the seller asking if they were genuine Callaway products that would pass an inspection by Callaway.