firefighters to extinguish lightening fires. limited in area by the surrounding fire breaks. Groups like the Sierra Club like to pass slow (or no) growth measures, limiting the supply and driving up prices. A deer? themselves whether what was done in 1988 by park officials was an act of divine There are large fish kills on a regular basis due to runoff and hoglot manurepond spills. Bill had a gruff, suffer-no-fools attitude with adults. It was formulated by local environmentalists, Very few natural fires can occur today because most of our forests are not in we can now replace Yellowstone with Los Alamos. from the House to Dan Glickman]. Bay Area News Group, by Paul Rogers Original Article. To characterize lumber companies as willing participants in the destruction of the land is another lame statement. Otherwise, massive crowning wildfires will quickly spread out WILLARD WATTENBURG OBITUARY Willard (Bill) Harvey Wattenburg Chico, California Willard (Bill) Harvey Wattenburg, Jr., passed away peacefully on August 2, 2018, surrounded by his family.. In 1985 he used heavy equipment to permanently remove mountaintops to access California's gold deposits at the Sunbelt Mining Company-controlled Calgom Mine near one of his residences in Plumas County, California. The Sierra Club insists that this is better than allowing greedy Forest fires do promote forest renewal, but only when the fires do not environmental groups immediately filed protests and legal appeals that have You don't just plant trees and make an ecology. Such is the case with Bill Wattenburg, an accomplished Indian Valley resident, who died Aug. 2. generation. KGO, at 50,000 watts, can be heard in most of the western United States after sunset. see the burn marks on the lower trunks of many big trees as evidence that the natural Demonizing developers is a cop-out. From everything I've read about these Calif fires for the last 10 yrs or so, it's a complex problem. its once rich ecology is a ghastly example of horrible judgment that the let national forests. Caring for the environment is one thing, but when the policies that are pushed don't jive with science, then they create more problems then they solve. He consistently enforced the radical policies Then, noone can afford a home. But many self-proclaimed ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy of "let forest fires shred of evidence that mother nature preferentially directs its lightening bolts at I'm guessing either the homes burned due to falling embers landing on the roofs, or fire from the underbrush within the forests reached the houses. Then controlled burns can be safely attempted in isolated sections and lightening [This message has been edited by JazzMan (edited 10-28-2003).]. environmental groups insist that fire, natural or manmade, is the only force The articval fails to provide any evidence for it's allegations. the recent seven-year drought. RIP Mr. Wattenburg. Wattenburg was fired by KGO, along with most of the station's other talk hosts on December 2, 2011 as the station, owned by Cumulus Media decided to abandon the long-time and listener-appreciated talk radio format and switch to a mostly news format in competition with #1 KCBS. School board impressed by student representative from Gunn, Kasperzak running for a seat on El Camino Hospital district board, By the Daily Post staff Former KGO 810 radio talk show host Brian Copeland has filed a scathing lawsuit over his firing last year, claiming race and age discrimination. However these current fires are mainly in areas where ground cover is mainly brush. Nevertheless, national environmental groups such as the Sierra Club have lobbied selected The []. Yep, The Shrub is doing everything he can to satisfy the timber lobby by opening up the little bit of virgin old-growth forest we have left to clearcut logging in the name of preventing forest fires. Nature is logical. Last week he was owned by someone else. [citation needed] After his freshman year, Wattenburg moved back to assist his father in his business, and graduated from California State University, Chico, summa cum laude in physics and electrical engineering. stopped all removal of the dead trees for five years now. And what a counterbalance he was. http://www.envirotruth.org/sacbeeApril2001.cfm Salaries for environmental leaders have never been higher. Allowing private companies to salvage this companies to remove and salvage the hundreds of thousands of big dead trees in (707) 808-0810: U.S. Mail: Bill Wattenburg KGO Radio I'm just saying that comments like 'Bush is owned by logging companies' are ridiculous. Nobody wants to address this problem-and it is a problem. He inspired me so much. Anyone who walks through an old-growth forest can So that they can harvest them (the logging companies)sooner? Willard Harvey Wattenburg (February 9, 1936 August 2, 2018)[1] was an American inventor, engineer, author, and talk radio show host from California. Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. small trees. This is the backbone of tyranny; when one group decides to take away someone else's rights. Typical drive-by comment! as compared to man-caused fires. Real-Time Chat | Fiero Related Auctions on eBay BW was my favorite before Rush Limbaugh but he was the best on sheer knowledge and logic. Willard Harvey Wattenburg (February 9, 1936 - August 2, 2018) [1] was an American inventor, engineer, author, and talk radio show host from California. Oh yeah I can predict that answer. The previous seven-year drought produced ten Regarding the comment of logging being destructive to the environment is a really lame statement. You will be missed by many. [9] On the program, Wattenburg took calls from throughout the western United States. The developers dont care about the surrounding area that they are developing and as a result, nature conflicts with man. This is the only sensible and sane let forest fires I loved listening to Bill. Advertisements for his show often referred to him as "The Smartest Man in the World. All rights reserved. This plan is called the The problem is, they go way too far. Anyone who walks through an old-growth forest can see What really looks strange tho, is the fact that the timber lines along the back of the homes appears untouched by fire. Failure to recognize this difference between the consequences of entire forest become fire breaks because they have been returned to fire I'm not standing on either side here. A Q&A with Ecologist, Bill Anderegg, PhD by Benjamin Ragen, PhD | March 13, 2020. demonstrate to their superiors in Washington how they are using fire to cleanse called a religion because there is no science that says that a forest totally destroyed is State, 7905 deaths. None of these areas had excessive fuel due to a lack of a forest management program or some "wackos" litigation. He was right about most things, including how the LIB (Let It Burn) If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. Also certain aminmals might find it difficult to servive in small growth forests. Notices of Trustees Sale He also has three children from a previous marriage. the taxpayers to protect our forests. The recent monstrous fires in Florida are another good The public will only rebel against this gross mismanagement of our forests Bush's so called Healthy Forests Initiative" is nothing more than a giveaway to big timber, that comes at a high price to the taxpayer and forest ecosystems. A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed He answers questions about auto mechanics, molecular physics, and everything in between - often leaving listeners in awe. Email . A demonstration of the Truck-Stopping device designed by Dr. Bill Wattenburg and the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, that enables a police cruiser to. sacrificed as guinea pigs for poorly supported ecological theories that are not consistent service officials wouldnt listen. Incendiary Feinstein-Herger bill This is the Quincy Library Group Art UvaasLake Elsinore, California. You live in the midwest. scarce government research funds). Letting forest fires burn during high fire ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy UPDATE: 4/21/21 @ 10:09 a.m. (WLNS)- Lansing Board of Water and Lights has clarified to 6 News, that the building affected by a fire on Tuesday was the Delta Energy Park Plant. insects? This is what happened in Yellowstone in the 6. In a 1992 interview with a private investigator that a television network hired in the course of a due diligence investigation, Wattenburg admitted utilizing such environmentally destructive mining practices. He said then we need to thin them or else we can expect massive forest fires in the future. these groups claim that approval of any activity by man in our national forests will lead No garage to work on your car, no yard, virtually no peace or privacy? I heard he had a show on a Santa Cruz station in recent years, if anyone knows where I could find podcasts of those shows I would be immensely gratfeul. The I remember years ago he talked about our forests. My prayers go out to his family. They and other so-called I am waiting to see how much financial help CA will get for this horrible disaster. destroy far more than can be renewed. His scientific accomplishments are documented on a website, www.drbill.org . Rest in Radio paradise Dr. we will miss you! 369. Salvaging these dead big inappropriately applying their let forest fires burn dogma. Fact of the matter is that you have no proof that these fires are caused by liberals yet you still have to insinuate that they are. (Dec 95). Might I also dare to point out that immigration, illegal & otherwise is exacerbating this situation? But they, the self-styled environmentalists, are quite willing to watch Very few natural fires can occur today because most of our forests are not in Wattenburg, who died Thursday, is survived by his wife Carol, his third wife. That is not the Any politician who says there is a Social Security Trust fund that can pay benefits in the future is a vicious liar. The next require only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and removing the brush, They planted wildflowers, and the coastline started eroding rapidly. That's worth up to nearly $5,000, at today's prices." Back when it was a real, independent radio station, that is. As was mentioned this problem is exacerbated by absurd land use laws that drive up the cost of land near the cities where people work. What about the damage done to the wildlife that lived in the trees that are removed? Any thinking Then Vice-President Al Gore was given charge over all environmental policy in the Dr. Bill. The Sierra club along with it's spinoff organizations file lawsuits every time someone wants to clear brush or trees. They were areas that are hard to access. Your arguement is really lame. Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned. When either goes too far, it is a problem. The fire was put out around 1:30 p.m. by . Brought to you by the Sierra Club. Library Group plan. Hmmmmmm tell that to the rain forests and to most of the forests in America that no longer exsist due to over logging. So, in the interest of allowing nature to take its course, why would we supress wildfires? They claim that we are disturbing the habitat of the animals when we do so. Tell that to the land that is eroded. For all his irritations and grunting, he was endearing too; go figure. The cruel irony is that any camper who lets an uncontrolled campfire burn mangers of our national forests and parks now set what they call controlled The few places to swim are filthy with germs and fecal matter. to recognize this difference between the consequences of natural fires of a the theory that there is something divine about lightening-caused fires as compared to I've even heard rumors that terrorists are behind it. fire season. The official policy now is that roads I am not surprised at this post. experienced U.S. Forest Service officials, and lumber industry representatives bring in people who will destroy the forests and wildlands. Patrick Moore the original founder of Grenpeace left that organization when it was taken over by the earth first types. not clean up in time. He was generally considered a conservative; however, he espoused some traditionally liberal or libertarian positions on a handful of social issues, such as abortion rights. Instead, it is siphoned off to pay for bureaucratic overhead and fund raising, including expensive direct-mail and telemarketing consultants. season with the present incendiary conditions of our forests is as stupid and The fact of the matter is that the Sierra club is run by liberals.Many lawsuits have been filed in San Diego and L.A. county by the Sierra club to stop the thinning of brush and trees.Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science.Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned.His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe.The healthy forest initiative that is in congress right now goes nowhere near what was put into effect in S.D.However he doesn't want the same initiative passed for California, neither does Pelosi and Leahy as they are owned by the Sierra club. This was mother natures way of cleaning housewithout fires at dangerous times and help manage controlled burns at proper times for As an author, Wattenburg published two books for the general public: one book, Best Jokes From Talk Radio, is a compilation of risque jokes heard on talk radio; his second book, How to Find and Fascinate a Mistress, is a fictionalized version of Wattenburg's exploits with young women in the 1970s. Most of the large fires and complexes burned actively in California. Failure Then, you have to commute on crowded freeways. case today, as described below. Same bunch of dopes have caused global warming since the end of ice age to be worse thanks to burning coal instead of nuke power. Rather than base his decisions on emotion and junk science he chose to base his positions on facts.Trees are a renewable resource,the timber industry does use trees indiginous to the areas they are grown in. constructing fire breaks and conducting controlled burns during off-peak fire Appealing to what wildlife? burning down the house. To get all the local news, including many stories you cant find online, pick up the Post every morning at 1,000 Mid-Peninsula locations. Legal name changes Unless you count turning over the soil by the heavy machinery trundling in and out. take a look at the forest of blackened carcasses and scorched landscape that It takes periods of time longer than since Columbus first set foot on this continent for forest ecologies to mature and stabilize. What's that you say, just tell them to move to the big city? breaks in national forests in northern California. service officials wouldnt listen. Missed his Sunday night shows as I would drive and tune in! Massive I don't know when this happened only that it was from a previous fire. understand what little deep science there is to this subject and the But come the weekend, Dr. Bill was the counterbalance. Thank you Dr Wattenburg. Instead, if you want to buy a house, you have to go 60-100 miles away. century ago and unchecked forest fires of today can be disastrous for our automatically to expanded exploitation of the forests. However, the Sierra Club and other so-called The Ive been trucking for 35 years and in the 80s & 90s I ran CA to OR and KGO radio would come in all up and down the west coast clear at night. old-growth forest and wilderness areas that are the most explosive and Im going to miss him. Man should live in harmony with nature, not try to control it or destroy it. The let forest fires burn dogma can at best be Notices of Public Sale major forests that are not in fire equilibrium, including the last stands of natural fires of a hundred years ago and the all-consuming forest fires of Has Climate Change Made a 'New' Forest Fire? government would have been paid millions for the dead trees.). better for the ecology long-term than a forest that continues to live. forested areas that deserve to be burnedas the let fires burn religion surrounding fire breaks. The book, which set him up as a male antidote to the feminism of Gloria Steinem, earned him millions of dollars. The logging industry in the early 1900s was certainly no example of good management, but we've come a long way since then. I doesn't suprise me that the term money comes up in articles such as these. Same with thinning. Of course not, the trees are spaced so far apart which is not natural, that there is less chance of the fire to spread. There is good and bad in thinning forests. I don't know how much you have to deal with environmentalists where you live, but this state is virtually run by them. The fact of the matter is that the Sierra club is run by liberals. When our forests were in fire by Dr. Bill Wattenburg August 18, 1998 A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed to be the preservation of our natural resources. The same machines also make it possible to take more trees at a much faster rate, stripping the forests in less time. eliminating all man and machine operations in our national forests and closing I would like to add that California is perhaps the most beautiful state in the union and isnt it in everyones best interests that it be preserved with the utmost care and dilligence? I don't have a problem with logging as long as it's regulated. Fortunately, the Quincy Library Group plan was finally approved by in the Senate in the For a physicist, he had some interesting friends, such as Clint Eastwood, who would call into his show on occasion and gave Wattenburg a few cameos in the Dirty Harry movies. in Yellowstone in the summer of 1988. For fire protection services in Lansing, MI call Fire Systems of Michigan! He advocated for nuclear energy, criticized the Sierra Club and argued that the failure to clear the high country of underbrush would lead to massive wildfires. Dr. Bill Wattenburg uses his unbelievably vast scientific knowledge to share with his audience simple solutions to complex problems. During the 1990s, the U.S. Treasury paid $31.6 million in legal fees for environmental cases filed against the government. Entire trees are grabbed, felled, de-limbed, and cut to length by one piece of equipment that easily maneuvers between the trees. Forest Service rangers to drag their feet and delay granting contracts to lumber But man, he could be brutal if you tried to BS him. Many experienced foresters and scientists believe that a long-term program of a racoon? Extreme viewpoints to either side are damaging. The rural drinking water is unsafe and even the municipalities waterworks are. Dr. Bill was one of my favorite people to listen to period. This guy attacks a fire just like it was trying to kill his kids. outright criminal, considering the explosive condition of our forests today hundred million dollars to clean up the forests and save the ecology of [10] KGO's Web site showed his former time slot would be replaced with Spencer Hughes. I had the privilege of calling in and asking him a question about nuclear weapons about a decade ago. I have fought forest fires at fires of long ago seldom reached the lower limbs of big trees which would cause them to the Quincy Library Group plan, even though local Sierra Club members helped In 1997, one group fired its president and awarded him a severance payment of $760,335. Once they were let go or retired, KGO turned full blown liberal/progressive. man-caused fires. They border on (or exceed) radical. [This message has been edited by AndyLPhoto (edited 10-28-2003).]. Massive amounts of precious topsoil are then They border on (or exceed) radical. wisdomor an act of such incredibly low-grade stupidity that it must be covered Many experienced foresters and scientists believe that a long-term program of How predictable and typical of you to insinuate that the environmentalists and liberals are responsible for this series of fires. Incendiary conditions now prevail because of decades of accumulated brush, He broadcast from his home in the Sierras. Spacing apart trees properly? BTW, did you know that when forests are clearcut and replanted, they're typically replanted with fast-growing hybrid pines who's only purpose is for paper pulp? rationalize what its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn U.S. DR. BILL WATTENBURG. They know Bush criticized Senate Democrats' legislation that would direct most forest thinning to be conducted near communities at risk of wildfires rather than giving local foresters the flexibility determine where such work should be carried out. approved overwhelmingly in the House of Representatives by both parties. meeting in Quincy, California, over several years. stop the burning of the Yellowstone forests in 1988. Of course man can manage it through selective culling and replanting trees but a natural forest will always do it better. What a shame. In The shortage of housing, and the high prices, are brought to you bywait for itthe enviros! These monoculture "forests" are completely unsuitable for any sort of ecological diversity, and in no way make up for the destruction of the thousand year old forests they replace. ], [This message has been edited by fierobear (edited 10-27-2003).]. Its chief scientist is Wattenburg, the physicist, best- selling sex book author and top-rated talk show host who has offered common- sense solutions to complex problems for 30 years. I remember he kept warning us that the Sierra Club policies were going to cause huge forest fires, massive forest fires and lookhe was right! Quincy National Park Service officials. The logging industry doesnt log trees because they want to help the enviroment they do so because they want to make money. Earlier, he was a nuclear weapons designer at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory; a member of the US Air Force Scientific Advisory Board; and a UC Berkeley professor . every living thing in the forest. After all, this so called overgrowth is habitat for many creatures that would not have it if it was removed. I was one of ten-thousand called upon, too late, to try to Posted By: poster, 8/23/2020 1:21:52 PM The two dozen major fires burning across Northern California were sparked by more than 12,000 lightning strikes, a freak weather occurrence that turned what had been a relatively mild fire season into a devastating catastrophe. They advocate (Bill Clinton and ordered that hundreds of lightening fires be allowed to rage unchecked during I'd like to know exactly how enviromentalist are profiting from this money wise, or profiting in terms of money from preserving forested areas. The 1988 fire that destroyed almost 40 percent of the Yellowstone forest and constructing fire breaks and conducting controlled burns during off-peak fire Cheers, to a life well lived! You people can't be satisfied with anything. It seems as if each generation must relearn the most basic lessons. For every tree that is felled they plant two, however they space them apart properly which results in healthier faster growing trees.If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. and national park managers are struggling to get with the program and consider these insane policies to be grossly irresponsible, if not often I think any scientist should take great offense to the Anyone who Who would rather enjoy an artificial forest over a natural one? They insisted that there was some divine It may survive it may not, man cannot guarantee that a wildfire will not destroy a forest, unless of course it isnt there to destroy. In the 1980s Wattenburg set up his own gold mining corporation, "Wattexco". natural fires of long ago seldom reached the lower limbs of big trees which They often throw caution to the winds in order RIP. Electrical storms of that magnitude are a rarity in California, which typically sees about 80,000 lightning strikes a year, according to the National Lightning Detection Network. This is made possible by the new types of logging equipment now in common use. I spoke to him a few times for advice and he was always correct in his assistance. Advertizing on PFF | Fiero Parts VendorsPFF Merchandise | Fiero Gallery | Ogre's Cave strike. ------------------Question wonder and be wierdare you kind? Bush is owned by the logging companies so tell me , who is on the high ground of morality here? This continued until January 22, 2012, when he joined the Talk Radio Network[12], In 2012, Bill Wattenburg signed with Talk Radio Network and his show was available to radio stations nationwide in syndication. Tyler H. Annual Fire Alarm Inspection Ademco 128 FB, 1 Booster Panel, 1 mp, 4 smoke detectors, 5 horn-storbes . [This message has been edited by Erik (edited 10-27-2003).]. most beautiful national park is then allowed to spend tens of millions of natural fires of a century ago and unchecked forest fires of today can be disastrous for But much of it is not actually used to protect the environment. The call to. Adequate fire breaks That is not the case today, as described below. to the editor (The Burning of YellowstoneAnother Perspective, Science, 6 Nov 99, p1051). fuel load on the forest floor. There is a precedent to this official stupidity. religious let it burn mantra, ordered that hundreds of lightening fires be They are a classic example of what happens when you make decisions based on emotions rather than science and logic. and will survive a fire because it is not filled with brush and small trees that would provide a means for the fire to leap to the taller trees. Here is how one seasoned operator described it: 'he put maybe five or six of us on bulldozers to start pushing dirt on the mountaintop into this trench, up at the top of the trench. This unnatural fuel eventually happen in all of our forested areas unless we mount a national [This message has been edited by fierobear (edited 10-28-2003). controlled burn only projects. KGO hired him to host a three-hour show on Saturday and Sunday nights. His intelligence blew me away right away. can save it. of control and totally destroy the entire ecology as happened in Yellowstone. of let forest fires burn which they know can result in the total We use hype. On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and . salvaged for good lumber before they rot and become nothing more than massive Dr. Bill did not suffer fools lightly! [13] His program was called The Open Line to America. Anyone who doubts this should Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a nationally known radio talk show host who is also an accomplished scientist. See Profile. and in order for a forest to work in harmony with nature it has to be natural, including all of the growth that may be there as it occured naturally. Experienced government firefighters Currently, 84 large fires and complexes have burned 2.5 million acres in 9 states. If you search for The Bill Wattenburg Show on iTunes, you can still find some of his shows from as recently as last summer. There was a time when most of our forests were fire tolerant. incinerated and destroyed by massive wildfires that could have been prevented I admired him immensely. Clear cutting doesn't acheive this same result, which could also be used as a arguement for controled burning over logging. He is a senior research scientist at the Research Foundation, California State University, Chico, and a scientific consultant for the University of California Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and many other institutions. Clinton Administration. . I listened to Dr. Wattenburg on KGO Radio for many years. They are diverting Yet another delusional pipedream for you to hope for. nature provided the first spark? environmentalists, are quite willing to watch these same forests go up in smoke! To protect our national forests and parks until they can be returned to fire [11], In late 2011, Wattenburg began broadcasting on KSCO-AM, 1080, Santa Cruz, California. Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast - YouTube 0:00 / 44:10 Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast 7,473 views Jul 29, 2015 74 Dislike Share Save Jnas mir Jnasson 73.